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[Mordor Slayer]

My ideas:

- Replace the Tower by a Beacon for Gondor (same beacon as neutral ones).

- Elven gifts (I put it here just to be sure, but I'm sure you've thought of this).

- One hint: don't scrap Eagles and Ents. I know Sul doesn't like summons which you can also build, but you really need the Eagles against Nazgul, and the Ents for siege (because many many ents die during a siege).

- I'd still like the Nertea dwarves as a summon in the spelbook, or as a summon of Dain.

Edited by Mordor Slayer, 29 June 2007 - 04:20 PM.

[Garrison Nomad]

I agree with u, MS.

as for my bizarre goblins, they were what I call apocalypse units, meaning they've been summoned by another unit and look rather otherworldy...I'm experimenting, ahhhh. I'm currently working on a forged blades skin you guys might kinda like.....but I'll get back to you on that.

@ nazgul= yeah...that does seem a little more...realistic. However, if you ever make a hero that summons or sumthin...always consider demonic tendencies...=P

[Sûlherokhh]

Putting in summons is a pretty easily accomplished thing. Especially if it involves units that are already in the game. But for exactly that reason i would only consider them placeholders until something better than that comes to mind. Or if it is done in an unusual way. I liked the idea of Shelob spawning spiderlings regularly, up to a max of maybe 5. Kinda like extra life. They could even be CREEPS chained to her, like the warg sentries, but to a mobile 'Pit'.

The Spellbook powers should be more extraordinary. They a) reflect the unique traits of the faction and b) represent an extra effort of a group or a person behind the curtains supporting the whole idea that the faction represents, like some hidden puppeteer. That's why i never liked Sauron as a RingHero too well. I always thought of the Mordor SpellBook powers as his personal collection of abilities and his influence among other peoples and creatures. With the other Spellbooks, like the Gondor or Elven SpellBook, this is a bit harder to pretend. All the potential 'behind the scenes' guys are already buildable heroes. :(

[Troll Ranger]

My ideas:

- Replace the Tower by a Beacon for Gondor (same beacon as neutral ones).

- Elven gifts (I put it here just to be sure, but I'm sure you've thought of this).

- One hint: don't scrap Eagles and Ents. I know Sul doesn't like summons which you can also build, but you really need the Eagles against Nazgul, and the Ents for siege (because many many ents die during a siege).

- I'd still like the Nertea dwarves as a summon in the spelbook, or as a summon of Dain.

I agree 100% with all of that, MS is very wise man.

[Nazgûl]

I would love to use those in a mixture with the Tornado that WILL be moved to Isengards Spell Book. But... we can't use RotWK stuff without upsetting people (cause it's basically "illegal" - at least morally and theoretically).

[Mordor Slayer]

My ideas:

- Replace the Tower by a Beacon for Gondor (same beacon as neutral ones).

- Elven gifts (I put it here just to be sure, but I'm sure you've thought of this).

- One hint: don't scrap Eagles and Ents. I know Sul doesn't like summons which you can also build, but you really need the Eagles against Nazgul, and the Ents for siege (because many many ents die during a siege).

- I'd still like the Nertea dwarves as a summon in the spelbook, or as a summon of Dain.

I agree 100% with all of that, MS is very wise man.

That made me laugh . But thanks! I still like the beacon summon, it can be quite handy since power recharging can take a while. But it should have a pretty big radius (like farms), so you have to build it on the outskirts of your camp, which is harder to defend and thus fair against the enemy.

[Garrison Nomad]

Saruman doesn't need a new wormtongue ability. Besides, if it's too big and too long, it becomes OPed. Isengard's new powers are gonna be based off weather effects, methinks they have said.

[Mordor Slayer]

He'll be given the tornado .

[Garrison Nomad]

Yay. He's needed a power like that...but I think he should keep lightning too....possibly even in place of fireball. nerfed, of course.

[Nazgûl]

Don't drift too much into heroes. This thread is for the Spell Books

[Garrison Nomad]

Ahh...sorry.

ANYWAYS...you've mentioned before that Isengard and gobs had access to things from the deep...things very...unnatural. What if gobs could summon something skeletal...armored, but skeletal. Thing Scourge from WC3 (DK why I reference that game so much, maybe it's cause it's rediculous and awesome at the same time <_>), only a little more LotRish. Some other Balrog-type critter, perhaps a flightless one with Monster claws, could fit in, too.

[Nazgûl]

I like that idea... But it would probably be very hard to do since we have no lava animations. But maybe... *noted*

[adummy]

if you ported the game to Rise of the Witch-King you could

[m@tt]

I'm pretty sure there is a steam vent animation:
http://www.gamerepla...howtopic=257380

So perhaps this could be changed to have lava?