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[Fyro11]

Was it where it was just a bunch of orcs and Uruks standing there? If so, it has happened to me too. You have to do the Amon Hen and Westfold missions first.

The Uruks killed the orcs, and nothing happened after that. I did do Amon Hen, not Westfold though. So I should do Westfold before I do Eaves of Fangorn I guess?

[TowerGuard418]

I think so. Amon hen makes the hobbits appear, while Westfold is where Eomer rallies the Rohirrim and gets info on where Isengard is going.(The Eaves of Fangorn)
Hopefully by the time the mod is complete, some mission markers will be added.

[Rafv Nin IV]

I did them both before. So that's not what caused the bug.

[TowerGuard418]

Well... I'm sorry I couldn't be more help. How many times has this happened? It works fine for me, but it really just depends on what exactly your'e doing. One wrong move and the next thing you know, you get a game dat error. By the time the mod is finished though, the campaign is going to be awesome!

[Myrdin]

in Lore - Grishnak, and Ugluk, fought togather, but in movie they were battling each other.

Ugluk wanted the hobbits delivered to Saruman
Grishnak, was suspicious of them to have the ring ( he was kinda agent ), soo he didnt wat the to get " eaten ", yet.

what i want to say : Will this be done book like, or movie like ( where Ugluk had argument with Grishnak and chopped dow Snaga ) ?

link to prove : http://en.wikipedia....#Grishn.C3.A1kh
( read about Ugluk too after reading this )

[Devon]

Snaga was the cirith ungol orc that got owned by shagrat...I think.

[Myrdin]

why dont you just read, the link on wiki, i poste
snaga, was ( newer named, though most of orcs/uruks lacked names ) in the movies, the orc that got chopped down his head by Ugluk.

Eventually - this can be seen at youtube, in the deleted scene, or if you are proud owner of CE ( collector edition ) of LOTR trilogy ( movies ) you can see it there

[Devon]

By newer you mean never? Or more new?

And, read the books Snaga was the orc from cirith ungol.

[Funbomb]

I always wondered why Myrdin always had some "v"s as "w"s. This isn't supposed to be mean, I was just wondering.

Ok back on topic-I think either one would be fine, fighting together or fighting against each other, either way, I still kill them in Good missions.

Edited by Funbomb, 29 April 2008 - 09:08 PM.

[Devon]

It's a german or dutch thing I think...in German anyway, their v sounds like an american f and their w is an american v, so it gets confusing sometimes.

[Zyzzyva]

Snaga is the name for slave in the Black Speech, and a term used by uruks referring to common orcs. So, Ugluk was demeaning the scout when he called him 'slave'. Likewise, I believe, Snaga is not the true name of the orc killed by Sam in Cirith Ungol. But, alot of people dont know this/ want a authentic black speech name and so call orc characters snaga, like in the movie. The second reason, I believe, is the logic behind 'Snaga' the Rj hero. I seem to recall a similar discussion arising when he was added because some people didnt like a hero being named slave.

[Scryer]

Myrdin, I think that this mod is going to try and incorporate some elements of both the book and films for the campaign (correct me if I'm wrong, someone..).

Grishnakh and Snaga are nott in the game (or so I remember), therefore I don't think that we should concern ourselves with the whole Grishnakh/Snaga being in the campaign.

This is a question for the team: What kind of missions are planned for MOTE for the evil campaign? If I remember right, there aren't a whole lot of places for MOTE to go except when it gets close to Siege Minas Tirith. I imagine that a Haradrim army would start in a Harad region, and a Rhun army would start in the Rhun region, but where would they go (besides Black Gates/Mordor, MT, etc.)? The way I see it is that they would have the least amount of missions... And would Arnor be apart of the WOTR campaign at all?

Some fineprint (wondering if I used that word right...): If you don't want to answer this because nothing's been "set-in-stone", it would be fine with me. I'm just extremely curious as to what's going to be planned with MOTE in the Evil/Good campaign. Yeah, so don't feel pressured to answer this question if you don't want to.

[Devon]

I could find the mission list...but I don't really want to go digging through several pages of stuff atm Mostly it'll be southern fiefdom missions in the linear campaign, with 1 or 2 in nonlinear. For good...hold of the haradhrim/corsair attack, and for evil...attack Rhun will of course also attack erebor...I think.

[Dalf32]

wow, i thought you would handle this one when i noticed you were posting yoda, but snaga is in the game. he is a very early game scout hero for mordor (costs 400 i think). grishnakh, however, is not in the game at this point.

[Scryer]

I could find the mission list...but I don't really want to go digging through several pages of stuff atm Mostly it'll be southern fiefdom missions in the linear campaign, with 1 or 2 in nonlinear. For good...hold of the haradhrim/corsair attack, and for evil...attack Rhun will of course also attack erebor...I think.

Thanks a lot for the info!! Don't worry about searching for any kind of list.... And, if you haven't guessed already, I have more questions! If you even have an idea about what's going on, then that's perfectly fine.

Will there be more 'attack the dwarves' missions (not fortress missions but just regional missions... Hope you know what I'm saying) for Rhun other than Erebor? And what would be going on for the Corsairs in the Evil Campaign? For example, are they getting their own army or set of missions?

The fineprint's the same as my latest post.

Lastly, thanks for the Snaga info. I kinda thought that I saw him in the public release, but I couldn't quite remember well enough....(<Grammar)

BTW, I probably won't demand information out of you guys after this post....

Edited by Scryer, 29 April 2008 - 10:50 PM.

[Devon]

Thought I mentioned Snaga...my bad

No idea about dwarves...my guess is probably iron hills or something for linear, though that may be goblins.

Corairs will be part of harad army in nonlinear, probably just a scripted mission like Isengard (good) is if the mission calls for only corsairs and not harad. They'll probably have 1-2 sea missions also.

[TowerGuard418]

EA left out a mission for RotWK that tells how Angmar got the alligance of the orcs of Gundubad. If there will eventually be a non-linear Angmar vs Arnor campaign, could we add something like that?

I've looked through that particular mission. You had to destroy piles of skulls. It would need something different than that. It also had goblins. I think I know why they left it out.

[Devon]

That's a long way off...Consider: we have I think like 8-10 mappers, which is nice, but only 3-4 can script, and only 2-3 of those can do inis With 30 missions each in good and evil campaign, scripted and balanced for three difficulties, it'll take a while. And that doesn't even count the enormous amount of work rob has to do to get the nonlinear functioning. For example, on a mission like helms deep, you can bring in 1 of 4 armies. And then you can also bring 3 other armies, so the whole map has to be scripted several times for each different scenario

Edited by YodaWarrior, 30 April 2008 - 07:28 PM.

[{IP} Aridor]

Well I can map maps and get help INI them.

[Myrdin]

yoda, why not concentrate first on the linear campaign, and after that done do the non linear, if you guys ever drop the work on this mod ( whatever reason ), soo at least one campaign is finished, . . . ?