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#281 Shikari

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 04:41 PM

Mmm, I think the eagles would probably have realised their talons were not really ideally suited to damaging rock and stone... Orcs maybe, but not orthanc...

Reminds me though, I must have a go at remaking EA's map to put the dam in where it should be :xcahik_:

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 06:49 PM

wait... crossbow range was shortened? but, they are meant to fire further than even longbows... oh well
I'm not sure of the eagles, I doubt they would have launched an assault on Orthanc instead of just rescueing Gandalf



yup, if you compare crossbows to BFME2 - short range, but pretty good power, pretty good attack speed ( awarage ) and good price ( NOT LIKE HERE ! :xcahik_: )
In Rotwk - longest range of all basic archers ( could fire through whole screen ), dmg NERFED ( with big N ) and attack speed slowed to 1/2 ( with dmg decrease it was pretty drasticall change, at least for me, for it did screw up pretty much my strategy )
In patchd Rowtk - Range shortened ( from previos wersion - 100% lets say to 70% ), and all other remained ( slow attack, weak dmg ).
RJ - shorter range than patched Rotwk ( at least i think soo ), BUT dmg increades ( back to normal :sad2: ), just attack speed is still pretty low.

i would suggest, increase the range a bit, but let other as it is ( just lower the damn price !!!, same for Uruk pikeman !!! ) and give Barbarians forged blades, soo the axetrhowers are usefull ( i would love to play with barbarians as my ranged, but they are weak, and have too short range - could use FB and faster attack )
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"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 09:41 PM

I know that the eagles wouldn't have attacked Orthanc. That part of my suggestion is just to add a little challenge to Part 1.
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 05:02 PM

They would have realised it would be a futile attack....

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 05:08 PM

kinda suicide mission anyway, they propably survived just thx the moment of surprise
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 05:28 PM

And what about do linear campaign started The battle of Last alliance,any missions with Bilbo Baggins from book hobbit-for example orc tunnels,battle of five armies atd....and then missions with boromir,gandalf,gimli atd....?

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 12:18 AM

Anything going on with Dol Guldur? I know that Khamul was stationed there for a time but with him being moved to MOTE....

I think that the Mouth of Sauron could be stationed there instead because I think that he would be the only hero of Mordor's that could fit there and get away with it. A problem with this would be that I would like to see the Mouth of Sauron do missions in Far Harad and Rhun, but a replacement hero for that could easily be found (I'm thinking of Gothmog or the Witchking since they'd be nearby Rhun/Harad). Of course, this would be assuming that Rob will keep it in for the campaigns. What do you guys think about Dol Guldur?

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 10:14 AM

just a quick suggestion

can you make a mission " Fall of Minas Ithil " ?

it would be mission of the last day of Minas ithil, before it was sieged, tainted, and rebuilded as Minas Morgul
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

#289 Scryer

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 10:25 PM

just a quick suggestion

can you make a mission " Fall of Minas Ithil " ?

it would be mission of the last day of Minas ithil, before it was sieged, tainted, and rebuilded as Minas Morgul


That would be interesting, I would like to be honest..... It would give you a chance to build up the WK's army (for Mordor, hopefully) and siege the place. A good mapper would be required here, though....

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 11:03 PM

The fall of Minas Ithil would be great to do, probably the fall to Sauron in the 2nd age and the destruction of the White Tree would be great, but it would require some really top-notch mappers as well as modelling/skinning work for the city not to look like a carbon copy of what's already in game.

If anyone wanted to help out and do a Minas Ithil and/or models for it I think that would be the only way we'd be able to get to it, unless at the end we are looking for something to do.

For a campaign of the 3rd age, it would be a good transitional from Angmar/Witchking Rise to the return of Sauron and war of the ring, but I doubt we'd ever get to it.

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 05:32 AM

This is a picture of Minas Ithil,which can help with skin of this city!look for this website
http://images.google...t...I7SUNA&sa=N

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 03:26 AM

This is a picture of Minas Ithil,which can help with skin of this city!look for this website
http://images.google...t...I7SUNA&sa=N


It's somewhere to start....

Can there be a river for a Minas Ithil level, under the bridge? I might be remembering this wrong, but I roughly recall there being a river between Minas Ithil. Also, there needs to be some poisons mist or something for the Minas Morgul map so that the bridge is actually used..... I don't know about you guys, but in that map I find that bridge pointless since your enemy could go across the river. Not only that but it adds extra protection to Minas Morgul/Ithil. It would also add more of a challenge to the assaulters.
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Posted 22 April 2008 - 05:36 AM

I have some tips for your mod:
1.if you know good modification on Rome:Total War-lotr total war look on this link http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
2.and if you will do to your mod living world map for wotr i have video of pretty real middle earth
watch it i hope that you use something from this

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 02:08 PM

i definitely agree on one thing - Uruks could be reskinned.

i know this lotr mod for Rome total war some time already, though newer had chance to play it ( i hope in the near future that will change ), i damn love much the way these people created the skins and models, most of them are soo high detailed, that its a " feed for the eyes ".

after seeing the uruk hai here, i think i cant be satisfied with the normal ones anymore :xd:
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 04:14 PM

Thanks for good answer.Yes Uruks and many skins could be reskinned.If you see lvm from video what you say?Pretty,isnt it?And what about do bigger legions of soldiers as in this mod?That will be much realistic.Thanks

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 05:37 PM

and LVM could be bigger than in original game,i mean waht about do regions for example Far Harad,Northern Wastes,Orocarni,Chand...atd,and in this video is lvm best!lthanks

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 05:56 PM

after seeing the uruk hai here, i think i cant be satisfied with the normal ones anymore


We plan on reskinning the uruk-hai, don't you worry :xd:

We would have done it by now, but EA's mapping of the model is incredibly odd. The texture is mirrored down the centre of the body, the shield texture uses a section from the chest armor, and the crossbow helmet uses the uruk-hai chestpiece. This makes them a little hard to reskin, as any changes I make basically screw everything up. So say I place a white hand on the chest, like we see in the films, it ends up on the shields and the back of the crossbow's heads :s

So... we're gonna remap the uruk-hai units which will allow us to create much better skins :)

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 07:13 PM

im putting my hopes in you shikari ;)

3x hurray for shikari ( to encourage him :) )

hip hip Hurrai, Hurrai Hurrai !!! :xd:
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"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 07:23 PM

About the Living world map: I know it's a pain in the ass, if not impossible, to create new regions in it. Sorry :xd:
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Posted 22 April 2008 - 07:48 PM

I wouldn't be so sure actually...

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