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[elbenmensch]

Could you make that floodhose for walls?And a towr would be good too

[Lord of the Rings Junkie]

I think floodgates as a wall expansion would be a little OP.

Ok. Check out the elf in the elven barracks model. See all the freakin' awesome attack moves he is making, while the actual units just use a basic swing and stab? I know it would be a LOT of animation work, but you see where I'm going with this. Just a dream... If I had my way, all heroes attacks would look the same as the combos in the ROTK game, lol. Especially Aragorn's Balrog's Gambit.

Edited by Lord of the Rings Junkie, 14 October 2007 - 08:03 PM.

[Nazgûl]

- Arrow Towers for Walls... yes! For Beta V!
- FloodHorse... no! =p

Barrack "Galadhrim" animations... Yes, for Beta V (already planned (in my head)) lol Noldor and Lórien Warriors should have those as extra attack or special attack (like Weapon Song move for Noldor)

[elbenmensch]

ty for the arrow towers!! the elves need a defence

[Lord of the Rings Junkie]

Barrack "Galadhrim" animations... Yes, for Beta V (already planned (in my head)) lol Noldor and Lórien Warriors should have those as extra attack or special attack (like Weapon Song move for Noldor)

I would just have it as an extra attack animation for those two units instead of making it a power like Weapon Song.

[Nazgûl]

It's a really nice anim yes, but I think the anim itself could get annoying after a while when you see it all the time. It's rather long and advanced, so I see it as candy. And I don't eat 5 pounds of candy at once, hehe But we'll experiment on this, if we manage to extract that anim...

Edited by Nazgûl, 15 October 2007 - 11:59 PM.

[charles762]

Before I speak on some of the things that I would love to see in SEE, I would like to say that out of the all the mods for the BFME series that I have viewed or played, SEE is by far the BEST! You guys definitely have brought new life to BFME for me. In all honesty, I think EA should be hiring you guys to compose a BFME Edition that really does the movies & books justice (though I know your mod primarily focuses on the movie adaptation). I normally skirmish on BFME2 as either elves or MOTW, likewise I did have a few suggestions/ideas for the elven faction:

1. Like many of the other fans that have commented in the forums, I definitely agree that Merry and Pippin should be put in the MOTW faction to free up two hero slots for the Sons of Elrond, Elladan and Elrohir. In the books, they accompanied Aragorns kinsmen in the Grey Company. I really see them as archers/swordsmen because that seems to be the standard for Ranger-type units. As for powers, they really do not need to have more than 3. They could have a special melee attack, a ranged attack, and a leadership ability.

2. I also like the toggle ability for Legolas, allowing him to fight with his bow or fighting knives. Sometimes, you just want to get up close and personal in combat with Legolas and the timed ability limits your duration in taking it to the enemy.

3. Just for those who didn't know, Cirdan was in the movies. During the prologue of LOTR where they show the elven rings of power, and at the end of ROTK with Elrond, Celeborn, and Galadriel awaiting to board the ship to the undying lands. I think he would be a cool hero for the elves, as he was a previous ring bearer. By including him and the Sons of Elrond to the game, that would give the elves roughly ten true heroes (I don't count the Hobbits) making them more even hero-wise with the MOTW and Mordor.

4. The elves should have more combatant units. I think the Noldorin spearmen seen surrounding Gil-galad in the LOTR would be a nice edition and would offer the elves another defense against mounted foes.

5. The Lorien archers should be renamed "Lorien Wardens" and as such should wear the gray clothing they are seen with escorting the fellowship to Galdriel in LOTR:TT. I think that gray outfit fits better than the blue clothing the game has on them.

6. I am really glad that the SEE staff have been making changes to the Lorien Warriors. For me, this is one unit that has never been worth spending valuable resources on to build in my book.

[Mercyy]

1. Like many of the other fans that have commented in the forums, I definitely agree that Merry and Pippin should be put in the MOTW faction

a) Ents like Treebeard are in the elvenfaction
b)The Hobbits can climb Treebear=> they must stay there, 'cause otherwise this brilliant feature wouldn't be able zu use any more.
AND^^
This two Hobbits belongs to the ENts and trees, because they made the ents to attack Isengard.
In their position as a soldier of Gondor or Rohan they made nothing that was so important

2. I also like the toggle ability for Legolas, allowing him to fight with his bow or fighting knives. Sometimes, you just want to get up close and personal in combat with Legolas and the timed ability limits your duration in taking it to the enemy.

I'm again against you^^
This is a feature, that only Legolas has.
All other heros have toggles.
If Legolas gets a toggle two, he will be like a stronger Haldir.
But with the EA Power Legolas is unique


cirdan...
sounds nice

noldorin spearmen sounds great
you have my vote

to the archers:
see noldorin spearmen^^

I would prefer the Lorien Warriors to become as strong as in 1.05.
With 1.06 they were the strongest swordunit AND the fastest. (they had of course much less life than guardains, but attacked faster).
I think they're are a bit to weak in SEE^^

[.:Skybaxx:.]

1. Like many of the other fans that have commented in the forums, I definitely agree that Merry and Pippin should be put in the MOTW faction

a) Ents like Treebeard are in the elvenfaction
b)The Hobbits can climb Treebear=> they must stay there, 'cause otherwise this brilliant feature wouldn't be able zu use any more.
AND^^
This two Hobbits belongs to the ENts and trees, because they made the ents to attack Isengard.
In their position as a soldier of Gondor or Rohan they made nothing that was so important

All four hobbits can climb treebeard, you should try it..
And no, they did absolutely nothing under Rohan/Gondor, Hey one only helped to get the much needed Rohirrim to join the greatest battle of the Third Age, and the other helped kill the witch-king, everyday stuff for hobbits.

I think Charles was trying to say that its a bit of a pointless +/or annoying ability, plus I think Legolas is a bit stronger than Haldir in pretty much every sense anyway with different powers....

[Sûlherokhh]

Legolas and Thranduil will be quite different when all is done.
The damn 'where do the Hobbits belong' question will not really be solved quickly. And not everyone will be happy with the end result, no matter what it will be.

[Biermann]

Dude, it's a long time since I last visited this forums, and I'm totaly lost between all those new discussions!

Athougth this would Treebeard's ablity to be climbed useless (what, to me at least, showed how crazy and briliant this mod is =p), I agree that Merry and Pipin should be moved to MotW. They both fought for Gondor and Rohan, mabye could be given some kind of advantage to them when close to Theodén and Faramir. Ops, wrong topic to post this

I know that the elves have too much heroes and all, but what about Cirdan? This guy had a much more important status in Middle Earth than both Elrond's sons, and he was an Elven lord, who possesed Gandalf's ring, so to me this guy isn't one to be neglected. He could give some leadership to the Mithlond Lancers and mabye some ability related to ships, and some fighting abilities.

[zachdaddy_3000]

Look, I love merry and pippin and treebeard together. So WHY NOT JUST MOVE ALL THREE OF THEM TO MOTW. There's nothing wrong with MotW receiving an ent moot too. But for those who say it would be OP to have ents and trubechets for MOTW, what about just having treebeard by himself? No other ents would be spawned from the moot. And make the moot wicked expensive. Like back in BFMEI for Rohan! It was like $5,000 to get one in that game! And what about changing one of the powers (preferably Bombadil) to "Summon Ents" to make sure Treebeard's leadership is still used? I honestly cannot think of one person who would not be happy with this suggestion. AND, in place of Treebeard for the elves, what about....Quickbeam? Maybe his rad self can give some leadership to Ents (atleast that youngin' can make them walk faster). My logic is flawless. Now, get to it S.E.E. crew.

And if there was a way to get Cirdan to board a battleship to grant it a bonus, that would be cool. Or maybe just when you put him in a transport ship, the transport could give leadership to other ships. OOOOOOOOH! And Capn' Jackson to give leadership to Umbar's boats!

Edited by zachdaddy_3000, 23 October 2007 - 01:41 AM.

[zachdaddy_3000]

Wow.....Nobody wants to touch this one?.......Anybody? .........I feel lonesome now ...........

[Mercyy]

I would say:
give the elven the expensive Ent moot
But the power for MotW sounds good

[zachdaddy_3000]

Well, then of course the Elves would have almost no siege power whatsoever, with their entmoot being so expensive. And since MOTW already have a main siege unit and building, you CAN make treebeard's entmoot expensive.

Edited by zachdaddy_3000, 28 October 2007 - 01:01 PM.

[1Master]

I think Frodo should be able to use Sting to badly hurt a spider like Shelob.

[Thorongil45]

i like the arrow towers for the walls. how about for siege upgrade make it the vigilant ent? and a 'allies only' gate would be nice. i like the idea of adding the three elven heros but.....as nazgul has said the game isn't all about the heros. the noldor spearmen is a nice idea as well. the idea of adding of quickbeam is excellant as well. antway, great mod, nazgul and team! thanks for all your hard work!

[Nazgûl]

I think Frodo should be able to use Sting to badly hurt a spider like Shelob.

Logically yes, but since Frodo will get "Mithril Coat" power, I'm planning "Shelob Bane" for Sam... (Check the ToDo List for Beta V =)

Edited by Nazgûl, 03 November 2007 - 06:15 AM.

[dragontamer]

Suggesting Thranduil gets a gold/green skin similar to Glorfindel's because I believe those were the colours of his home in the Hobbit.