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[Thorongil45]

could you separate the ents at the entmoot so the player could get them separately?. i.e. ash, birch etc...

[Nazgûl]

I don't think that's a good idea, cause that would give the impression that there's only 4 Ents in total. A part of the idea with all 4 +TB is that we wanna create the illusion of ents being many. But with only 2 models (Birch + Fir) thay illusion was rather difficult to obtain. And with 4 models and 4 buttons you get the impression that each one represent 1 unit, and thus the illusion is lost again...

The Vigilant Ent expansion: If units come too close, could it knock them back like a melee ent? It shouldn't be overpowered, because it's so slow, but ya know, if it's bending over to pick up a rock, it should be able to knock a couple of orcs around.

Yeah, I like this thought... We might be able to add a Vigilant Ent to the Moot. Like in opposite end to that familiar leaning rock

[Sûlherokhh]

Eh, would you mind rephrasing and expanding your request?

[av8r]

Eh, would you mind rephrasing and expanding your request?

What? You don't speak Entish?

[GilGalad]

What about removing Thranduil or Glorfindel as they don't appear in the movie and adding Gil Galad or/and Elladan and Elhorir??
I know that the Twins don't appear but they are cool and Gil Galad does appear in the beggining of FotR

[Lauri]

and he's ancient history...

dang, why does someone ALWAYS have to ask for the LONG GONE heroes?!!?

[GilGalad]

Because we like them

[Sûlherokhh]

We know all about that. No surprise there, as i am a part of the long gone team.
Including Elladan and Elrohir is a matter not of availability, but rather of the large number of heroes that are already populating the Elven faction.

[Jonasking]

I think take the "hero-units" from rotwk to hell ,hihi =) And make them to a usual unit . Elves Add:
New Units:
Noldor Warriors(Not hero unit,lvl 3 barracks 750-800, 80CP)
Noldor Archers ( No hero unit , lvl 3 barracks ,750-800,80CP)
Noldor Spearmen(No hero-unit , lvl 1 barracks 400-500 ,80CP)

Buildings:
Noldor Barracks , recruits(spelling?) Noldor Spearmen,Noldor Archers and Noldor Warriors)
Like we discuss about , remove mallorn trees and take farms instead .

Remove : Mithlond-sentries , maybe?
Mallorn-tree

[Nazgûl]

That would make Noldor into a mini faction of Elves and in the 3rd age Noldor elves were extremely rare in Middle Earth (if any), so we like to keep them just that - a rare and ancient "breed", but powerful. They're not a "hero" unit though... they're an Elite unit Currently in Private Beta 4.6 we have 2 small units that can merge into 1. I want them to be 4 units that can merge into 2, but more than that won't happen since this is the 3rd age and not the 2nd =p

[Jonasking]

That would make Noldor into a mini faction of Elves and in the 3rd age Noldor elves were extremely rare in Middle Earth (if any), so we like to keep them just that - a rare and ancient "breed", but powerful. They're not a "hero" unit though... they're an Elite unit Currently in Private Beta 4.6 we have 2 small units that can merge into 1. I want them to be 4 units that can merge into 2, but more than that won't happen since this is the 3rd age and not the 2nd =p

Gil-Galad + Hes warriors , that should be nice.

[Lord of the Rings Junkie]

The Vigilant Ent expansion: If units come too close, could it knock them back like a melee ent? It shouldn't be overpowered, because it's so slow, but ya know, if it's bending over to pick up a rock, it should be able to knock a couple of orcs around.

Yeah, I like this thought... We might be able to add a Vigilant Ent to the Moot. Like in opposite end to that familiar leaning rock

Perhaps you could give ent moots experience levels and have the vigilant ent as a level 3 addition? (Kind of like arrow towers are for resource buildings.) I've found it annoying anyway that ent moots can't level up and give you production speed bonuses. I think it would give Elves a well needed boost in the siege department, you're pretty much screwed once the enemy gets fire arrows.

[Lauri]

that's why you have elven archers with your ents

[Lord of the Rings Junkie]

Archers aren't much good against battle towers.

[Lauri]

but ents are...
use Elven archers along with some tough elven infantry, and use the ents to throw rocks...
There's a place for every unit... use it

[The Best Guest]

Here's an Idea the elven watchtower gets taken out and replaced by a floodgate tower

[dragontamer]

If you remove the arrow tower, you kill the Elves strength; Their archers. And strategically, not a good idea. The enemy just needs to sacrifice a unit to make the flood gate discharge, and then they can bring in the rest of the army to knock it down. That, or the army just walks around it. The floodgates don't have good range.

Now, having a floodgate as an additional tower might be ok. Mind you, the whole concept is based on the river at Rivendell and the powers of Arwen (or Gandalf, depending on the version you follow.) The floodgate isn't really Tolkien, or Jackson.

...Ahhh, but don't remove it from the mod. I think it's very cool.

I am not a fan of the friendly fire though. Does it damage buildings, and is there any way to prevent your own units from getting wiped out? It's harder to play if half of your fortress is unplayable.

Edited by dragontamer, 17 December 2007 - 02:57 AM.

[dragontamer]

Regarding Quickbeam as seen on the To Do list. -Awesome idea, always wanted that.

He will be faster than the other ents, right? He was thinner, and more rash than the other ents I believe. He made decisions too fast for their liking. Hehe.

Probably too thin for rock throwing. Perhaps he should be a unit stomper. Low health, but high dodge rate. You try hitting a moving birch tree with a fire arrow. :p I think this would make him an excellent support ent, as he can deal with any units attacking the ents while they throw rocks. And if given any kind of leadership, it could be called "Entish Enthusiasm." ;)

Edited by dragontamer, 16 December 2007 - 08:24 PM.