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[dragontamer]

Regarding Elladan and Elrohir, I was not in support of them being in the mod. There really isn't that much about them to justify making models for them, adding voices, and then adding powers.
However, I went to Wikipedia to see what it said about them, and it seems they have just as much to do with Men as they do Elves.
Perhaps they have a future in the MOTW faction? (I know they have a lot of heroes as well. Maybe they could be another Aragorn power, or maybe even added to the Dwarves as some sort of elven alliance.)
To read about their hate for orcs because they tortured their mother, perhaps they could have an 'orc bane' power up.
AND
Apparantly they are in the movie, during Aragorn's coronation.

~I think we need to help out with the suggestions a bit more than just saying "because they are cool," guys. Not everyone may agree.

Having said that, if the twins land anywhere in the mod, here are some more power ideas.

A power that randomly activates any available power in the game. You could get fireball, or you could get walk unseen. *Any power. Call it "Observed Behavior"
An assassin power, to make it available to the good faction.
A one shot bow attack "right between the eyes."
"Replantation" Places a mallorn tree on the map to provide cover to the elves. (Once the mallorn tree is a stealth providing building.)
Gemini-A buff given to both brothers when they are together. Or if there was some way the one power made both of them attack together. That would be something. (You could extend this to Gimli and Legolas if you go with a "fellowship" in the gameplay.

[Jonasking]

I want more units(No "elite-units") , That should be a unit to pumped out from barracks . I have an idea of Elven Pikemen. Delete Mithlond-Sentries , and take Lorien-Pikemen . With the shields of the Lorien Warriors from the rehular game and a Pike , that should be a great unit to pump out =) What do you think?

Edited by Jonasking, 16 December 2007 - 08:50 PM.

[myster]

why not make some noldor warriors + gil-galad a summon for the elves... something called ''war memories'' or smth? dunno

[Mercyy]

@ Jonasking:
boring:P
I love the Mithlond Units, because they are different to the other elves.
And the faction is called "elves" and not "Lothlorien"

[Jonasking]

@ Jonasking:
boring:P
I love the Mithlond Units, because they are different to the other elves.
And the faction is called "elves" and not "Lothlorien"

Yes, but i must say i hate the skins of mithlond-sentries . They´re so uggly I want shields and better skins , is that possible?
EDIT: Mithlond Archers? Mithlond Warriors?
EDIT2:Nazgul?Sulherokhh?What have you think to add for Elves for next Beta?
And Mercyy , it is named Lothlorien !

Edited by Jonasking, 23 December 2007 - 06:48 PM.

[Thorongil45]

the ents are some of the most powerful siege units in game! besides they're not just wood, they're live units. agree with the reskinning of the mithlond sentries though. and agree on heroes as well. by the way guest_grubbo, please register, thanks.

[Grubbo]

the ents are some of the most powerful siege units in game! besides they're not just wood, they're live units. agree with the reskinning of the mithlond sentries though. and agree on heroes as well. by the way guest_grubbo, please register, thanks.

Hmmm...they are powerful, sure, but I still think the build way too slowly. Giants have all the same abilities, are easier to control (ents freak out as soon as they get attacked) and seem to build way faster. Other forms of siege may not have melee abilities, and therefore the versatility of function but at least I can get a few within a shorter amount of time.

Had another look at the mithlond sentries. They're not too bad. I'd say retexturing them is a low priority.

And, oh yeah, finally registered :-)

PS I love this mod!

[Sûlherokhh]

That's the weakness of the Elven Faction. Still, they can a) build several EntMoots, b) summon 4 when really needed, c) build the best units available in the game.

[myster]

I read in the ToDo list that you were planning on making the mallorn tree's become small sentry towers...

why not remove the Elven Tower and replace it with the Mallorn Tree's... it shoud keep the same things as the towers(it should be possible that units will go into it and it should be upgradable)..

maybe use the Mallorn Tree lvl 3 model for it?

[Jonasking]

Yeah , but i want more Hehe. The elves need som Rivendell troops . In the film Elrond "says" there is a force to repell Mordor but not Mordor ad Isengard , "Gandalf , we cannot fight against Mordor and ISengard" and a new power to Elrond should be Leadership . There is only one Rivendell unit (ecept heroes but i hope you undertsand that by now:P) Rivendell cavalry , and i dont think ELrond fight agains evil with forces on horse like the rohirrim

[King_of_Blades]

and i dont think ELrond fight agains evil with forces on horse like the rohirrim

Oh sure they do! Everyone in Rivendell except Elrond and Arwen were a bunch of cripples, so they had to ride horses to fight the forces of evil.

[Jonasking]

Oh sure they do! Everyone in Rivendell except Elrond and Arwen were a bunch of cripples, so they had to ride horses to fight the forces of evil.
[/quote]

Common , they must have infantery units , think Infantery figth on one spott and the cavalry are spread around the Elven kingdoms and take down a group of orcs / uruk-hai( for an example , Eomers and his rohirrims take down Ugluks scout group )

[mike_]

He was being sarcastic, Jonasking.
And yes, I'm pretty sure Rivendell would've had sentries and guards, but not a standing army. I also like to think Elrond had a hoard of Elven weapons and armour stored up in his armouries, for a last resort.
So, any Elven units out of Rivendell, IMHO, would start off as lightly armoured bow/spearmen, but could get a huuuge heavy armour upgrade.
Cheers,
-mike

[Lallalaa]

...a huuuge heavy armour upgrade.

You mean like Donald Trump huge?
"Its gonna be HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE"

[mike_]

Despite the fact that was blatant spam, yes.
Cheers,
-mike

Edited by elfhelm.., 09 January 2008 - 10:51 PM.

[dragontamer]

A new power for Arwen:

~I can't see Aragorn fighting Arwen (except like a couple would. ) so here's the idea:

"Elven Fair" or "Fair of skin"
Arwen takes no damage from Heroes/Cannot be targeted by Heroes. Could work as a passive ability.

(Even though the Nazgul would probably have no problem killing her.)

[myster]

How about changing the looks of silverthorn arrows? instead of the blueish hue.. make them more silver.. And for the Noldor warriors use ''goldenthorn arrows'' as a upgrade? (and use a golden hue for that)

and if you want to make fire arrows and magic arrows not available everytime, use the blueish hue for magic arrows? would bring more diversity in using achers in the game

Edited by myster, 15 January 2008 - 10:41 AM.

[mike_]

Silverthorn is a river..
I was thinking, about my Rivendell Elves suggestion, maybe that could/should apply to all Elves.. I can't easily picture them tromping around in wargear most of the time alike to Dwarves and Men
Cheers,
-mike