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[spiderspag]

YEh but apparently the Men of the East are going to be made into their own faction.
Having said that, why not give Angmar's Hill Trolls to Mordor in the face of the Easterling pikemen going bye-bye's? I know you already have the Ork Pikemen, but these would be good as a later elite pikemen purchase from the Troll Den. You could give them a Charge Attack ability, which would be a short burst of speed and a 50% attack bonus so they can throw themselves at a cavalry charge head on.

[spiderspag]

Not those trolls, but their green friends. You make a good point about diversity, but then it has been the policy of this mod to give all sides flying units, which seems to render that argument a little redundant.

Edited by spiderspag, 02 June 2008 - 05:14 AM.

[ttandchotmail]

G'day spiderspag

Thanks

The EA forum did have a good community at one stage. And many great ideas came from them.

[SovietSoldier]

yes,idea of a hill troll would be good.in the book,mollock(or whatever you call him,nazgul) was the chief of trolls.and he led with him at the battle of the black gate some hill trolls.Mollock was killed by pippin.

[Nazgûl]

- We won't have any more Trolls as far as we've planned right now. I HATE the trolls from RotWK exp. Attack Trolls with and without Siege Mace + Mountain Trolls + Drummer trolls is rather sufficient and covers all trolls types from the movies. We will ad Mollock though (RA name), as a Troll hero with Leadership to ALL trolls, looking like the one in RotK final battle using CaH models =)

- We might remove flyboys again, as they are rather annoying gameplaywise and only have them as summons for Men and Dwarven factions... and move Isengrad fells to a summoned power too. That way all will have fly units but not ALL the time

I still say that nazgúls are not frightening at all. Make them look like in the original intro. That's way much better...

In what way is that? You mean the long robes? Those are only available for ONE single anim - riding. That would make them grow robes when riding, and loosing them when unmounting?

[witchkingshour]

Yeah I am pleased with how the trolls are now. Attack trolls own buildings and Mountain trolls are really hard to bring down. Nothing is worse tho when playing against Mordor and you see Masses or Orcs, trolls and heroes coming to your base. And if your in late game, it's over bc catapults, muamks are just too much for any faction to take down. Actually won my first game today against brutal lol. I was DFwarves against men and managed to win. Key for Dwarves is keeping them heroes alive.

[Grig]

I don't see how much 'scarier' the Nazgul can get... I mean, even in the book, they were never described as 'horrific' with oozing puss and ferocious teeth it was the palatable feel of evil that made them horrific... it wasn't what you SAW its what you felt.

As they stand, the nazgul are about as 'scary' as they should be. If you ask me though... maybe up the range of the archer towers for Mordor? My elven ents and MOTW catapults can take them down without even getting shot at *shrug*

[Nazgûl]

Ah now I get it... "up" as in "increase", lol. I read that like 5 times before I got it

Anyway, yeah that is one of the constant head aches... range of towers v/s Siege... I like to have towers that can defend themselves against Siege, at least see/locate them as I hate when the towers just get attacked from the void. But ppl complain about realism and since that's a high factor in SEE as well... it's a tough call.

[Grig]

Well, isn't it realistic for a BIG TALL TOWER to see something that is at a far off distance and... ya know... shoot at it?

Edited by Grig, 26 July 2008 - 11:46 PM.

[Nazgûl]

Well, maybe it's more realistic that a powerful siege engine can shoot much farther than an arrow?

[witchkingshour]

Siege is the counter for towers though. We don't need to give them towers anymore range!

[Nazgûl]

That link is dead ^ (or the site is too slow)
But never mind, I know exactly what you mean, and I explained why we can't do it

[Jonasking]

Here's the site in a screenshot(took about 10 minutes to show the hole picture): .

[SovietSoldier]

i have been thinking,why are two cave trolls pushing a siege tower?the mountain troll should,or the helmet trolls the ones who were pushing the siege tower in the rotk movie.

[Nazgûl]

We'll most likely change the model from Cave Troll to Mountain Troll... eventually. It's already on the Grond, ready to be used. The question is if any modeler would want to rebind the whole model to the bones again, after editing it.