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[shadowcreature]

Yes, I just checked and they are. Only difference between the two is that it takes longer for training in the hideout.

[Devon]

But is that price lower than the one before you have an outpost built?

[shadowcreature]

Nope. Both show them trainable at 400 a pop. No evidence of a discount whatsoever.

[Uruk King]

I disagree with the Mordor-isengard alliance option, if anything Saruman eventually wanted to send his Uruk-hai to do batle with Sauron's armies.

And there is no such thing as the Northland swamps, EA assumed it was where Hill-trollls came from. Perhaps dunlendings.

[Bengamey]

I have to disagree with the Inn options you propose with goblins:

Creep lairs: Goblins already have nearly everything from the lairs: goblins, cave trolls, spiders, drakes, and I hope in the future wargs and moreover they are able to capture lairs so this alliance is useless

Northern swamps : such a thing doesn't exist

The black forest spiders (with more different types of spiders) and remnants of Dol guldur should rather be alliance to the gobs

The only thing I agree with is Gundabad.

[Neth]

I would say

Gondor:
Southern Fiefdoms - Everything ,
Rohan - Heavy cavalry, Theoden, Eomer, Eowyn, any others in the battle of Pellanor Fields
Grey Company - Heroes (Elladan and Elrohir, Halberd any other of the Grey company)

Rohan:
Drúadan Forest - Lightly armoured stealthed Archers/Pikemen and the Chief (Forgot his name)
Gondor - Heavy infantry and some heroes (Faramir, Boromir)
Lorien - More expensive and powerful elven units than the ones in the Archery range and Haldir

Dwarves:
Iron Hills - Extremely heavy infantry
Blue Mountains - Lightly armoured, faster dwarves
Grey Mountains - Very good against goblins/wargs/fire drakes (Wild things)

Elves:
Men of Dorwinion - Mostly economic upgrades but some elite units
Dol Amroth - Elite cavalry units
Rangers of Arnor - Elite Archers and Swordsmen (No Toggle)

Arnor:
Cardolan - Heavy Infantry and some Rangers and someone
Southern Kingdoms - Gondor and Rohan Cavalry and Earnur
Lindon - Extremely expensive elite units and Glorfindel

Mordor:
Rhûn - Pikemen and Mahud Chieftain
Harad - Archers,Mumakil and Lorgan
Dol Guldur - Khamul and some more powerful Orcs

Isengard:
Mordor - Cheap, Spam Orcs
Dunland - Wild men - Cheap raiders (More powerful than Tavern)
Ruffians - CHeap, Spam raiders (More expensive than orcs, Less expensive and more spammable than Dunland)

Goblins/Wild:
Spiders - Spiderlings, Spider Riders and Shelob
Trolls - Snow trolls and hill trolls
Children of Drogoth - Like the Dragons from the Rhûn fortress and some mini firedrakes

MotE:
Khand - Powerful warriors
Far Harad - Half Trolls
Umbar - More powerful seige, Elite warriors

Angmar:
Trollshaws - Big trolls
Gundabad - Cheapest orcs ever (Free and very low command points)
Corrupted Dunedain - Elite warriors and archers

Edited by Nethelen Narcu, 03 May 2009 - 12:40 PM.

[{IRS}Athos]

Arnor doesn't need any inn factions except for Gondor, which should have basically the same units as them but cheaper. The Northland Swamps could be interpreted as somewhere in the Ettenmoors, although they were never mapped out, so therefore they don't exist. Neither do Snow Trolls. Please never mention Snow Trolls again.

[Uruk King]

My take on it would be:

Gondor:
Southern Fiefdoms - Everything, including KoDA
Rohan - Heavy cavalry, Theoden, Eomer, Eowyn, any others in the battle of Pellanor Fields
Grey Company - Heroes (Elladan and Elrohir, Halberd any other of the Grey company)

Rohan:
Drúadan Forest - Lightly armoured stealthed Archers (with poison darts), light melee units good agaist beasts, and Ghan-Buri-Ghan
Gondor - Heavy infantry and some heroes (Faramir, Boromir)
Lorien - More expensive and powerful elven units than the ones in the Archery range and Haldir

Dwarves:
Iron Hills - Extremely heavy infantry
Blue Mountains - Lightly armoured, faster dwarves
Dale - Very good Archers, swift but light swordsmen, versatile Esgaroth Guardsmen, lead by Brand and Bard II

Elves:
Men of Anduin - Heavy Beornings lead by Gribeorn, tough stealthed woodmen and Radagast
Lindon - Defensive elves and skilled archers, led by Cirdan
Rangers of Arnor - Elite Archers and Swordsmen (No Toggle)

Arnor:
Southern Kingdoms - Gondor and Rohan Cavalry and Earnur

Mordor:
Rhûn - Easterling Spearmen, chariots and swordsmen, lead by Lorgan
Harad - Archers, Raiders(?), Mumakil
Dol Guldur - Khamul and the other Nazgul, some more powerful Orcs, wargs, spiders, undead spirits, Castellans

Isengard:
Isengard Orcs - Cheap, Spam Orcs
Dunland - Wild men - Cheap raiders (More powerful than Tavern)
Ruffians - Cheap, Spam raiders (More expensive than orcs, Less expensive and more spammable than Dunland), good at weakening enemies and stealing resources

Goblins/Wild:
Gundabad - Heavy Orc warriors and pikemen
Dol Guldur - essentially Dol Guldur but without the Nazgul.
Withered Heath - Like the Dragons from the Rhûn fortress and some mini firedrakes

MotE:
Khand - Powerful cavalry, some strong footsoldiers
Far Harad - Troll-men, possibly beasts of Far Harad
Umbar - powerful seige, corsairs

Angmar:
Gundabad - Cheapest orcs ever (Free and very low command points)

[Devon]

Still somewhat too much like minifactions for me.


But I guess that's less important now that RA is down

[Neth]

Yay Uruk King fixed my ideas That took me about an hour

Edit - RA is down?

Edited by Nethelen Narcu, 04 May 2009 - 11:15 AM.

[Dunedain Lord]

to hell with beornings. The least I want to see in a game is some guy who turns into a bear. TO hell with them.

[Excuse_me_princess]

Yeah, about that.
Wasn't it the general idea to chance the game, so it would look less like Warcraft 3?
Not that Warcraft 3 has anything on RJ ROTWK... Warcraft 3 was fun while playing the campaing... but it didn't last through the skirmish and online multiplayer (WTF no walls and limited rescources)
I just think the whole man/bear thing would be a step closer to Warcraft 3... just felt that someone had to say it.
Just to say, that EA had the full right to steal elements from Blizzard, as we all know Blizzard stole a form Tolkien (Witch king... Lich king)

(Oh sweet moter, I said the W word four times in this post, does this mean Elrond will come and take me away while i'm sleeping... don't... want!)

[Bengamey]

Sorry, I just don't understand the link between Beornings and Warcraft. Or maybe J.R.R got his inspiration from Warcraft bear-druids when he wrote the Hobbit in 1937. Or an other possibilties is that the Scandinavian sagas of the 12th century from which Tolkien took the shape-shifter, themselves stole it from Blizzard.

And I think we should remove the elves because, as we all know they come from Warcraft.

Edited by Bengamey, 06 May 2009 - 05:25 PM.

[Uruk King]

What the hell do you mean "remove elves?"

And no, Tolkein took no such inspirations for his books from Warcraft which came after LotR, lets not mention that word any more. Now.

[Bengamey]

That was irony.

Edited by Bengamey, 06 May 2009 - 06:29 PM.

[Devon]

No, it was sarcasm He was kidding, Uruk King

[Anri1]

What about adding a unit to Arnor inn (that could be built like hobbits with other good factions)? The lindon warriors wich would cost 500-700.

"They could work very much like the rohan elves. They would have a weapon toggle between swords and bows. I imagine them looking like the Rivendell warriors before armor upgrade. After armor upgrade they would look like the noldor. And of course they would have the available purchase of arrow and sword upgrades. To balance them out they could be a high price and high command point cost." mxalex229.

I know the poll about adding this unit to the main faction of Arnor wasn't successfull (2 votes for, 6 against), but maybe there is a place in an inn for this unit.

[zachrb]

Well Arnor needs something in there Inn besides hobbits