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[Pasidon]

That's right. But he's got to threaten me first... it's not all willy-nilly guns n' blood. There does have to be probable cause. Gran Torino emphesises the case well, like how Clint Eastwood tricked the Mexican skinheads to shoot him to get them arrested.

[Vortigern]

So if you trick the burglars into attacking you it's OK to kill them? That seems like deliberately provoking a situation whereby you can get away with murder, which is an absolutely shameless loophole.

[Allathar]

Why the fuck would I deliberately trick the burglars into attacking me, just so I can kill them? That's just not worth it, and very risky too.

[Vortigern]

Exactly. Pasidon, you are a numpty. That, I feel, is the essence of this conversation.

In other news, I have a question in response to Allathar's mighty profound comment in t'other thread. Is it better to waste time or space?

[Gen.Kenobi]

Time.

[Puppeteer]

Time.
Malthus ftw.

[Bart]

Space, because it can be reclaimed

[Puppeteer]

Still time for me, because you waste time reclaiming wasted space.

[Allathar]

But the space is wasted over a period of time... So if you waste space you waste both.

[Pasidon]

Well time isn't infinite. What is time, but a measure of comprehension for people to pattern progress. But people can't comprehend what goes on in nothing, so people can't really prove if time existed in nothing. What we do know is; without Atomic Matter, progress is an impossibility. One of those nutty laws of quantum theorizing, but if time is progress, then time can be limited, thus being... well limited since all mater in the universe can be lost: illogical yet possible. Yet, if people can't prove that time is infinite, you're not supposed to jump to the conclusion,"Oh! Yes it is! It sounds good." Besides... you can't waist time. What is, will be what was. Nothing else. I would of brought up the bottomless bag of peanuts.

Exactly. Pasidon, you are a numpty. That, I feel, is the essence of this conversation.

I dunno what that means, but it doesn't win the brownie point for you. So I let it be...

[Vortigern]

But what if time truly is infinite? And indeed, space. As we all know this is an infinite universe which is constantly expanding into... more infinity? Anyway, theorise for a moment that time is non-linear, not subjective and instead of a series of pasts and futures consists of an infinite number of presents, which mathematically it must. Given these assumptions to be true, I would suggest that space would be the less valuable of the two and thus the better to waste, as time will never cease, whereas usable space is limited by planetary mass and surface area and viable distance between celestial bodies. So let's waste time, as I do every day. Way to justify my dreary day-to-day existence.

[Pasidon]

Well sure, we can assume that. It's more philosophy than science, yet in the sense that time is a physical entity, then it could be seen as an unending force. Then again, we would have to assume the universe is infinite then.

As we all know this is an infinite universe which is constantly expanding into... more infinity?

Infinity plus one? Nuts...

[Pasidon]

Hey... to you Mass Effect 2 junkies out there, go to the Local Cluster and Probe Uranus. ... Dumbest thing in the game happens.

[Vortigern]

Does anyone else find it really aggravating when scientists who should know better tell reporters that they have a 'theory' when what they mean is that they have a hypothesis which will not qualify as a theory until it has undergone years of testing and counter-hypothesising and emerged in a new and different form? Do they really think we won't understand if they use a vaguely intellectual-sounding word? Or are they just scared of being misquoted so simplify everything a thousand times over just in case?

[Pasidon]

They do it because people don't know any better. That issue exactly has been a big problem I've had with scientific practitioners today. Just because the average person won't argue them, they can say and do whatever they want.

[Pasidon]

Did we know today (well... yesterday now since it's 12:09 for me) was two holidays in one? It was National Pot Smoking Day... sure.... And it was Hitler's Birthday. That's quite the celebration combo... but just a fun 4/20 fact.

[Vortigern]

I want to restart this thread, because I think it was a good idea. Also, I have something to share that doesn't really warrant its own topic but is quite interesting nonetheless.

I was browsing Wikipedia just now, looking through my various kinds of things that interest me, and I stumbled across this page: Trickster Gods. Near the bottom, under "Tricksters in various cultures' oral stories", I noticed that, in amongst Loki, Lilith, Anansi, Baron Samedi and Coyote, we find "Internet Culture - Troll". Wikipedia has designated the trolls as gods of the internet. (Real[?]) God save us.

[Beowulf]

At least they didn't say Anonymous. But I'm sure that's coming real soon.

[Spectre]

Dem Trolls, they're everywhere! Also, I thought Boxxy was the Queen/Goddess of the Trolls. What does this make the normal trolls?

[mike_]

This topic should be used more often. Please, comment and discuss my latest gushing on the Post-Marius Roman Legion.