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[Ganon]

In other words, at the time of your post, your hadn't quite worked that out yet?

Come now, there's no reason to act all mysterious.

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

Since you guys are making a TC there's no reason to stick to standard type abilities as some may suggest.
Find new ways to use the abilities in game.
If this mod will be worth playing it'll have to offer something more than a reskin of BFME.
We've all been playing BFME for many years make it special.

[Mathijs]

In other words, at the time of your post, your hadn't quite worked that out yet?

Come now, there's no reason to act all mysterious.

The ability is coded and functional.

[mike_]

Was that a joke, Rad?

[Gfire]

Def with rad on this one.

[mike_]

It sure seems like you guys are doubting our abilities to come up with new and interesting features - you may want to reserve judgement until you actually see anything rather than assume things you know nothing of.

[Gfire]

That was certainly not what I meant. Wouldn't doubt your abilities, only what is typical in most mods, "OMG A hero with BLADEMASTER and LEADERSHIP" that sort of thing. I'm sure rad's just passionate about this and wants to make sure it is as good as it can be.

[Kwen]

What better abilities for a Warrior King of SPARTA? The abilities EA has created fit the role perfectly. It does not mean we're not being imaginative.

Use well what is given to us. And so we are.

Edited by Kwen, 07 December 2010 - 08:48 PM.
Trying to sound wise :P

[Lauri]

It's a TC, it's already unique Rad..
I agree on bringing something new to the table, but trust me, most things has already been done.

Besides, we aren't making a mod that focus on heroes. And I believe that Leonidas was pretty awesome enough to grant leadership to units.

Rad's not passionate about our mod, he's just pointing out things that we obviously should have because we're a TC, so that he himself can give every hero in his non-TC mod Blademaster and Leadership

[Master Windu]

Might I point out that I hate (almost) all leadership? In all (mostly passive) forms? (Lots of other things I hate too, like summoning powers/abilities...ughh)

I might also point out that I love this project.

I think leadership should be reserved for a VERY select few heroes, not something that's a dime a dozen. It's really, really powerful. If it was like a 15% damage bonus then yeah, okay.

Maybe I've been playing too much Starcraft 2...but I'm now a balance maniac.

[Gfire]

I must agree with the above, although I have come to accept certain things about BFME that just are the way they are, and the game really can't function other ways. Of course, I've been playing a lot of SC2 as well, and I know the sage engine isn't capable of a game like that, so it's really quite different.

[Lord Eniam]

I was trying to think or all possible heroes. You could add Agatharchidas who was Spartan general. Possibly a medic such as Agathinus who could heal/perhaps revive fallen and wounded troops. I was also thinking maybe adding Alypius, a music writer who perhaps when near troops plays a small tune that boosts morale and/or recudes the chance of becoming afraid/having fear

[Mathijs]

No, we won't have that many heroes. Leonidas and PERHAPS one more will do for now.

[Stokstaartje95]

Well, something is a little strange... I heard things about Leonidas, main hero of Sparta, BUT! He died 480 BC, and the Pel. Wars started a little later...?

[Mathijs]

From the Q&A update:

Q, from Allathar. To what extent are you willing to sacrifice historical accuracy for the sake of gameplay? I.e. heroes that don't match up with the timeline, units, types of buildings, aestethic choices, etc.
A. The main divergence from the timeline is with heroes. Right now we've got Leonidas I, whom as we all know was a hero-king of Sparta during the Greco-Persian Wars. In history, he died at Thermopylae nearly 20 years before the First Peloponnesian War, but in this mod he'll be represented as the primary hero for Sparta. This decision was made based on his popularity with modern gamers and historians, both of which we're attempting to relate to (and are ourselves). Other factors, such as units, buildings and design motifs are as accurate as can be except in certain arguable stances - such as the popularity of Linothorax among Greek Hoplites, which didn't really come into vogue until Alexander the Great popularized it as the standard for the Macedonian military. So it did exist at the time, but wasn't as popular as we're representing it (which is being made for the sake of gameplay, yes).

[mike_]

This was covered in the FAQ Update that I posted the other day, which you can find here.

Seeing as you (and many others...) have not taken the time to check it out, I'll answer your question here. Really, the mod is focusing on the 5th Century as a whole, with the Peloponnesian Wars serving as the "meat" of the content. So, while we'll heavily feature those Wars, and those that fought in them, figures from earlier and later parts of our time period will also be present.

[JUS_SAURON]

Well since this is brainstorming .. here's a few

How about a Chariot rider like the Battlewagon ...
upgraded with phalanx or archers ..

The main fortress could be split into a few upgraded parts

1. the second level adds vision
2. the towers on the corners are on buildplots

A healing structure would be nice , or some recruit-able healers

Some peasants could be used for repairs , the Draft power could be very handy here !

and the 'Hobbits' could be stone-throwers

And the wolves could be a usable unit , man have been using dogs in battle since time began

Edited by JUS_SAURON, 02 August 2011 - 04:41 AM.

[Spartan184]

I'm sorry JUS_SAURON but I have to disagree with a lot of your ideas cause there all generic BFME2 ideas and as this is a TC and they are trying to be as historically accurate as possible.

[JUS_SAURON]

I'm sorry JUS_SAURON but I have to disagree with a lot of your ideas cause there all generic BFME2 ideas and as this is a TC and they are trying to be as historically accurate as possible.

No worries ..

I like the Spell Book they have ... subtle yet effective
and the commandbuttons are VERY well made !

[Mathijs]

Thanks.

We have a healing building at the moment. Upgrade the Agoge with Battle Squires from the Gerousia and there you go. There are plans for additional healing functionality but they're still being discussed. Fortress upgrades were also discussed at one point (fairly recently I believe) but I'm not sure where we are right now. Also, helots (buildings) can repair buildings. They haven't got an animation yet though.