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[TheQuackSavior]

Because we going to have a Repair wave support power or not, like in the General.

[Speeder]

Nothing's replacing the Seraph.

[Jargalhurts]

Explain this:

Sure, I can tell you what was removed.

Epsilon Ore Refinery
Epsilon Airpad
Injection
Seraph
Railgun Tower
Psychic Interrupter
Genetic Mutator
Epsilon Dog
Virus
Ghost Miner
Trike (as it was)
Chaos Quad
Mobile Illusion
Magnetron (as it was)
Starflare
Salvage Disc
Sea Sled
Gatling Warship
Kraken Frigate
Gaia Platform
Deviation Fist
Kaamos Cannon

[Speeder]

Yes, it was removed. Nothing replaces it. Gatling Cannon's back as AG/AA.

Edited by Speeder, 03 October 2011 - 12:45 PM.

[Jargalhurts]

Yes, it was removed. Nothing replaces it. Gatling Cannon's back as AG/AA.

Oh, no. Why? I liked the Seraph a lot and i would prefer having AG and AA to be separate for a single important reason:

Having an overly expensive AG defense would be economically difficult for players playing against enemies that rarely uses aircrafts or doesn't prefer dropping para-units right under their enemy bases. Allowing them to exploit their weakness of expensive turrets. Which is the reason i don't play Red Alert 3.

Edited by Jargalhurts, 04 October 2011 - 11:10 AM.

[Zenothist]

Well, that's why you have Tank Bunkers.

[TheQuackSavior]

Yes, it was removed. Nothing replaces it. Gatling Cannon's back as AG/AA.

Uhh, that b*stard. Because Gatling Cannon is expensive.

[Zenothist]

Well, it's more that the Epsilon no longer have a power independent defense structure. Well.. except for the Tank Bunker, but who uses those?

[Jargalhurts]

Well, it's more that the Epsilon no longer have a power independent defense structure. Well.. except for the Tank Bunker, but who uses those?

See, you're saying who uses those. Besides Having a Tank Bunker along with a Gatling Tank is believe me, much more expensive than building a Gatling Cannon. So Epsilon gets 2 choices: 1. An AG and an AA defense structure that costs 800 and requires power to operate. 2. A Tank Bunker that costs 400$ along with a Gatling Tank that costs 700$ equals 1100$, but no power cost. All in all, both are economically difficult to manage for Epsilon. And by the way if you really think the Tank Bunker is worth of replacing the almighty Seraph, remove the Sentry Gun also (because of Battle Bunker).

[TheQuackSavior]

Well, it's more that the Epsilon no longer have a power independent defense structure. Well.. except for the Tank Bunker, but who uses those?

Heresy, Seraph is better than the damn gatling cannon!

Edited by General Recon, 05 October 2011 - 11:56 AM.

[Speeder]

It's a pillbox with initiate weapon. How is that better than a gatling cannon?

[Jargalhurts]

It's a pillbox with initiate weapon. How is that better than a gatling cannon?

It doesn't cost power. It's cheaper. It does it's job against armor slightly better against Gatling Cannon.

Besides, if you really think Seraph is a P.B with a Psy-Jab, you can also replace the Pillbox with a Multigunner Missile Site and remove the Sentry Gun. So everyone can finally shut up.

Edited by Jargalhurts, 05 October 2011 - 12:05 PM.

[Speeder]

No, I'm just going to remove Seraph and bring back Gatling's Cannon AG capabilities.

[Jargalhurts]

Eh. Do what you will. But remember, most people would've preferred to have a separate AG and AA defenses.

Edited by Jargalhurts, 05 October 2011 - 12:11 PM.

[Speeder]

Citation needed.

[Jargalhurts]

The citation is General Recon.

We can make a poll, though. About whether people AG and AA to be separate or unified.

Edited by Jargalhurts, 05 October 2011 - 01:50 PM.

[Speeder]

I already did and I know the results.

[Jargalhurts]

I already did and I know the results.

And i'm pretty sure you'll say unified.

[eil]

well, when i first saw Gattling in YR i was impressed and liked it's AG much. though i'm afraid- what will be the handicap for it's returnment..

[TheQuackSavior]

well, when i first saw Gattling in YR i was impressed and liked it's AG much. though i'm afraid- what will be the handicap for it's returnment..

Separate AG and AA defense is better than sh*tty Gattling Cannon.