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[Pasidon]

I probably won't be a werewolf. Maybe on my next play through... a werewolf Argonian would just seem silly at the moment. But that's about enough companion spoilers for now. That is quit the story though... I don't typically see battles like that at my point in the game.

And yea Spart, the guild quests are almost ridiculous. "Hey new guy; now that you've joined the the guild, let's send you on a dangerous quest that no one else will do. You'll probably be our leader afterwards, so good luck." The Thief's guild is literally The Golden Glow manor mission, the Golden Glow investigation mission, then killing the leader of the guild so you can take his place.

Then, I turn around and Shadowmere is kicking Forsworns in the face

Hmm... Shadowmere seems very dedicated to killing things without being asked. When I had him, he killed an Elder Dragon. I shot the dragon down with half its health and it fell over a hill. When I reached the top of the hill, all I saw was Shadowmere standing over a dead dragon. But not too long after that, Shadowmere fell off a cliff that was about 2 feet tall and died. ...

[Spartan184]

Well Shadowmere never really dies, I've killed it about 6 times and sooner or later it comes back to life.

[Pasidon]

He does? Last I saw of him, I blasted him with a fireball scroll across half of the Reach. Maybe I need to visit the bubbly oil pit again.

[Puppeteer]

Heh, this game is quite fun... I've barely done anything, but it's fine just dual-wielding spells. I can see myself just putting all my perks in there, because they are way too much fun. Sneaking up on someone... getting really close... whisper in their ear... breathe down the back of their neck... and then... FIREBALL. No stealth bonus? Aww, dang.

[Ganon]

They should have let you get stealth kills with magic. Just ask Festus Krex in the Dark Brotherhood. He actually suggests striking from the shadows with magic, in one of his random speech cues.

Also, Spart, about the Thieves Guild, I read that even after you kill the guy you're not really the full leader. They say you are, but you have to work up to a point where you have a fence in every major city. Well, there's like 5 cities. You have to do Vex and Delvin's jobs to get that far, then eventually they give you special jobs. At that point you begin to see people setting up shop down in the Ragged Flagon. Then they have a ceremony and everything.

I'm willing to bet the other Guilds are similar.

Edited by Ganon, 04 December 2011 - 01:02 PM.

[Spartan184]

Well, in the Dark Brotherhood I did all the quest that one black guy can give you til he said he could give me no more. The Night mother quest are just endless I think because I've done about 5 and they just seem generic auto generated quests, so I stopped doing them.

As for the Thieves Guild I've done some of Vex and Devins quests but I stopped though I'll continue it later today to see where it gets me. Still even though I'm not the full guild leader apparently, shouldn't I still be treated with some respect? The douchebags of the guild are still are assholes to me or they act the same way towards me like if I just joined.

In The Companions Aela and Farkas still give me quest but again they seem like there auto generated, so I stopped doing them. But I'll try again I guess.

Though that really ins't my problem with the guilds, my problem is that you advance to the top rank overnight and the guild story lines are to short.

[Pasidon]

This Thieves Guild thing is news to me. I suppose there is an achievement to restore the guild to its former glory that I haven't gotten, so no wonder. Must... go... fishing... more often... Or just do more numbers jobs since it's just as easy as clicking on a book and getting paid for it.

Heh, this game is quite fun... I've barely done anything, but it's fine just dual-wielding spells. I can see myself just putting all my perks in there, because they are way too much fun. Sneaking up on someone... getting really close... whisper in their ear... breathe down the back of their neck... and then... FIREBALL. No stealth bonus? Aww, dang.

If I'm not mistaken, I do believe there is an illusion perk that makes your spells silent. I don't think you get a sneaky-sneaky bonus, but you can stay hidden after casting a spell that way... I imagine. Realistically, I think I would find it worse to be hit with a double fire-ball without realizing it was coming my way. But you should use the bow too, Pup. It's amazing how much fun assassinating an entire room of people with a bow is.

[Ganon]

Okay, I'll be honest. I cheated.
I have the official game guide from Prima Games. It's like 600+ pages long. I only read about the Thieves Guild though, and don't worry I have no interest in spoiling anything for you guys.

[Abrams Tank]

Ganon 
Posted Today, 03:37 PM
Okay, I'll be honest. I cheated.
I have the official game guide from Prima Games. It's like 600+ pages long. I only read about the Thieves Guild though, and don't worry I have no interest in spoiling anything for you guys.

hahaha me too, it was the last one too at my gamestop store in Anchorage and ive memorized the whole book before i gave it to my brother.

[Pasidon]

... You're both dead to Pasidon.

[Ganon]

Meh, buying a game guide might ruin it for some people. However, for me it's just a way to get the most out of a really great game. It doesn't really hinder my ability to achieve 100% completion either.

[Pasidon]

I bought a game guide to, so oh well. But I just have one to put in my book-shelf for collectible reasons. And use it for the civil war quests since it didn't give me quest markers half the time...

[Kwen]

Almost 60 hours into the game, I've pretty much run out of things to do that hold my interest for any decent amount of time. Now, for the grueling wait for mods, mods, and more bigger better mods.

And I agree with Spart, we had a discussion about it and Skyrim's visuals are a disappointment. The graphics look good only in a photograph sort of look, if you take a quick peek (or a screenshot) they look amazing. but if you actually look for a few minutes, you start to see many low resolution textures, repetitive assets, and boring designs. Why are there no random animals with the exception of the "Elk"? All the Falmer look identical, and I've yet to see a female deer/Elk (do they exist?).

Also, a lot of the armor textures are quite a disappointment. If you're to be looking at something for an extended period of time, it should look... well good. Too many low res textures. The game was consolized, and thus we're left with a watered down result. Texture mods are helping, but it's a pain having to download something for every little thing, and the landscape texture mods are enormous in file size.



The immersion. Oh god. The NPCs all use a variety of like four or five different voice sets. ALL the children look the same, and the NPCs all say the same damn things. Plus, there are no emotions. The civilians run away a little bit when there is a dragon, but then when it dies it goes back to sameole sameole. Why are there no shrieks of terror? and mass panic? I see guards being burned to a crisp and they just stand there... No "OH SHIT I"M BURNING TO DEATH" animations? Bah humbug.

I'm going to end the rant portion now as I have to go do a stupid meeting, but rest assured there is more beneath the hyped skin of this game. (Don't get me wrong, one of the best games I've ever played. But modders need to unlock the potential. CDK is announced by the way, January.

[Spartan184]

The sad thing is that had lots of voice actors this time. Yet for some reason they chose to give them all the same dialogue scripts to voice. Is it really that hard to write a couple of different scripts. One good example is the guards of the cities, if you listen to their voice you can see they are voiced by different actors yet they all say the same damn thing. Merchants are also a good example.

[Pasidon]

They use the same voice actors for the same species, with a few variations on main characters. I don't mind it much since I feed on the lore that dictates one's accent is given to them by their homeland and not those they associate themselves with.

[Ganon]

I found a wiki article outlining all the possible bugs you might run into. I was pleased to see that I wasn't the only one that had to deal with that BS from Aela. Except, whoever reported the bug experienced it with Farkas.

Here it is. It has all the game ending bugs listed first, and the minor ones listed last.


This one, in particular, pisses me off. Stupid dragon flies bass ackwards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjCq7DRsyw

Edited by Ganon, 10 December 2011 - 01:09 AM.

[Ash]

So, have we all got bored of Elder Scrolls: Dragon Age and the fact everyone sounds like Wally Walrus yet? Have we all returned to what is, technically, the superior game? Although unstable beyond belief, I can't shake the loving of Oblivion and its 'verse more... The combat's better, the way crafting is done is infinitely better. But I just. like. Oblivion. more.

It's odd that I want to just wage a massive war against the Thalmor, purely because I myself am loyal to the Empire. I didn't even think about joining the Stormcloaks at any point - it was just a case of 'No. The Empire must prevail.' in my mind...

[Spartan184]

The Stormcloaks are racists and Ulfric is full of shit. It was the Empire for me right away. As for the Thalmor, there a bunch of assholes and I too want to wage a war against them.

[Pasidon]

Ulfric is justified. Nords belong in Skyrim just as Imperials belong in Cyrodiil. The Septums need to learn their place.

Oh, and Ganon, I saw that one not too long ago. They don't have glitch videos as good as Oblivion (The cheese wheels rolling off the mountain is pretty good), but they do have a glitch that really ticks me off. There's a book that levels up 5 different skills (at least) 5 times for any category of your choosing. Once you read the book, it should become useless. But people managed to use it infinite times. I won't say how to spare you the temptation, but for example, they read the book for Stealth and gain five points in sneaking, lock picking, speech craft, archery, light armor and one-handed weapons... then they can read it again to do the same or level up in the fighting or magic categories. My friend went from level 20 to level 70 in a mere 30 minutes.

[Ash]

To be fair, if you're strong enough to have got the Oghma Infinium, Pasidon, it matters little whether you use it once or a dozen times...