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#1741 Flandre

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 08:45 AM

You just lose them in the sidebar build options, they don't explode.

 

Oh that, guess someone was right. Yuri manage to delete the "data" files that prevents the Soviets from building more of them, those that survived were sabotage or so


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#1742 Solais

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:28 AM

I guess in 3.0 they exploded, but that would be a plot hole in Act 2, because those cloning vats in Spain still survived, so it was changed, I guess?


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:12 PM

Nope, 3.0 Dragonstorm didn't do a thing to 'em at all.  No message saying access to the technology was being removed, no sudden disappearances from your build options, and the existing ones went right on existing all the way to the end of the mission.

 

I really don't know where this idea that the existing Psychic Sensors/Cloning Vats explode came from.  It's not even in Speeder's 3.3 Dragonstorm video (referring to that because we already know from Volkov's nerfs that some things were changed between those videos and the 3.3 release).  The only place I've seen it mentioned is on TV Tropes, and we all know that that's hardly a reliable source of information.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:40 PM

Guys, the ones in Spain were built and under control of the Confed, not the Russians. And the Confed might have theirs own archives with info about the cloning tech, so it's not strange that they still have it. 

Pretty sure the Chinese still have it too. The cloning tech have pretty much been mastered  by all 3 sub-factions so removing it completely wouldn't be that easy. The psychic tech is a different thing, because right now nobody know how to train an Adept.

 


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:48 PM

It's said they have managed to keep them inact and working, which means there was some threat to begin with. I'd say you're taking it too seriously, tell me why Yuri had to resort to snatching old tank designs, if during Epsilon missions we were able to capture enemy units, bases and Construction Yard, why not reverse-engineer them too?



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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:56 PM

One can indeed argue that the reason why Soviet doesn't use the cloning tech because they don't want another Huehuecoyotl

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:13 PM

Nope, 3.0 Dragonstorm didn't do a thing to 'em at all.  No message saying access to the technology was being removed, no sudden disappearances from your build options, and the existing ones went right on existing all the way to the end of the mission.

 

I really don't know where this idea that the existing Psychic Sensors/Cloning Vats explode came from.  It's not even in Speeder's 3.3 Dragonstorm video (referring to that because we already know from Volkov's nerfs that some things were changed between those videos and the 3.3 release).  The only place I've seen it mentioned is on TV Tropes, and we all know that that's hardly a reliable source of information.

Seems there's some misinformation going around. We really have to clarify things.



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Posted 26 January 2017 - 02:17 AM

 

Nope, 3.0 Dragonstorm didn't do a thing to 'em at all.  No message saying access to the technology was being removed, no sudden disappearances from your build options, and the existing ones went right on existing all the way to the end of the mission.

 

I really don't know where this idea that the existing Psychic Sensors/Cloning Vats explode came from.  It's not even in Speeder's 3.3 Dragonstorm video (referring to that because we already know from Volkov's nerfs that some things were changed between those videos and the 3.3 release).  The only place I've seen it mentioned is on TV Tropes, and we all know that that's hardly a reliable source of information.

Seems there's some misinformation going around. We really have to clarify things.

 

 

I swear to god I saw the cloning vats explode and/or a message saying tech was stolen.

 

Maybe check Martinoz's videos; they're 3.0 playthroughs.



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Posted 26 January 2017 - 04:09 AM

Maybe that exploding things work differently depends on difficulty, mine on easy don't explode


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:51 AM

One can indeed argue that the reason why Soviet doesn't use the cloning tech because they don't want another Huehuecoyotl

 

Perhaps? It is not well sure if the Latins manage to report that to the Russians during the chaos in moscow.


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:57 AM

Those Vats were never supposed to explode and never did.

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 09:48 AM

Those Vats were never supposed to explode and never did.

From that wiki: "Some things were still left unclear to the General; Where did the traitor Yuri disappear to after he refused to show up at the Kremlin and why did the Psychic Sensor & Cloning Vats mysteriously self-destructed themselves?"

 

It must be scripted to me.


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 10:11 AM

We all know that the wiki at its' current state is not a viable source of information....

 

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 03:24 PM

Who is the soldier in the Foehn skirmish score screen?
Is that 'real' Fin?


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 03:33 PM

Doesn't look like a knightframe, and fin has a sniper rifle.

 

So I think its a Foehn commander or leader? I dunno.


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 03:43 PM

Doesn't look like a knightframe, and fin has a sniper rifle.

 

So I think its a Foehn commander or leader? I dunno.

Probably some random concept art. The helmet seems oddly familiar tho.


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 04:23 PM

For me the soldier in Foehn victory banner resembles that of Uragan.



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Posted 26 January 2017 - 04:32 PM

Except that uragan flies.


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 04:32 PM

It somewhat reminds me of Tiberian Sun...



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Posted 26 January 2017 - 07:37 PM

I think it's actually inspired by the cancelled game C&C Tiberium. 

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