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#2861 Speeder

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Posted 28 January 2018 - 01:28 PM

There isn't a plan to do so. It's only accessible through the original game menus, which we don't use anymore.


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Posted 28 January 2018 - 02:36 PM

There isn't a plan to do so. It's only accessible through the original game menus, which we don't use anymore.

 

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Posted 28 January 2018 - 06:12 PM

what if you made a custom version of it on the custom menu


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Posted 30 January 2018 - 01:23 AM

 

I think there is a problem in Godsend, when I mind control those Chrono Legionnaires and they tend to go "wacky" and attack any enemy within their sight.

You picked the wrong Chrono Legionnaires to MC...
Joking aside (not really), the special Chrono Legionnaires used by AI have a massive aggro range compared to the normal ones, so yea... 

Have fun trying to use them :p

 

 

So it wasn't by script but some sort of custom unit version? Wish there is a way to change that.


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Posted 30 January 2018 - 12:24 PM

Those CLegs were made to jump at you from a distance, that required giving them a certain special feature. AI uses its unique CLegs in general, so that they don't auto retaliate at whoever starts firing at them, otherwise they'd never stick to warping a single target out.


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Posted 30 January 2018 - 05:12 PM

Ah thanks for telling me about that. I guess it's just a liability to MC those guys in that mission.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 12:13 PM

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 01:04 PM

Repair walls support power

 

As they are very tedious to keep replacing once they broke down, it would be nice if we could just have some way of repairing already existing walls instead of rebuilding them constantly.



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Posted 31 January 2018 - 03:37 PM

Some ideas for the map maker:

- Half cliffs that are 2 levels high instead of 4.

- Iron ore that has half the value of gold.

- An indoor / underground map type.

- Neutral enemies (http://ares-develope...ians-as-enemies)

 

Other ideas:

- "Funds" support power. Requires any any refinery. Drops a money crate worth $2500. Costs $2500 to use. Can be used every 4 minutes. Purpose? For aiding allies with low funds.

- More accuracy for the speeder trike against mobile terror drones. As funny as it is to see 1 terror drone chase away 15 speeder trikes, I think the trikes should at least be able to kill it.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 06:09 PM

IIRC MO 1.0 featured some sort of support trucks, that could be used to transfer money via destroying them and picking up the money crates, no? A support power to just simply drop crates sounds interesting, and should be possible too, by paradropping a dummy unit that self-destructs immediately upon landing, and leaves a money crate.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 06:21 PM

I would approve of the money crates as an optional feature, avaliable after whenever - to allow for compstomps, co-ops etc.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 07:44 PM

I do remember that Blizkrieg II for CnC Generals Zero Hour had supply truck unit that self destroyed when deployed and spawned a 10 000 money crate that your ally could pick up.... maybe copy that for Mental Omega ?

A truck... ?

Well, i could see more gameplay potential in trucks hauling money to allied bases rather than omnipotent support power.

Having to actually escort such trucks, not getting raided would add difficulty but atleast it would balance it out... slightly.

 

Since if it was a support power in team game, example: ally could have officially lost all source of income but his comrades can reverse his failure by paradroping crates to his base. Or in low resources starts, team players could pretty much feed resources to x player so he can make a mass of y units early on.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 08:42 PM

I do remember that Blizkrieg II for CnC Generals Zero Hour had supply truck unit that self destroyed when deployed and spawned a 10 000 money crate that your ally could pick up.... maybe copy that for Mental Omega ?

A truck... ?

Well, i could see more gameplay potential in trucks hauling money to allied bases rather than omnipotent support power.

Having to actually escort such trucks, not getting raided would add difficulty but atleast it would balance it out... slightly.

 

Since if it was a support power in team game, example: ally could have officially lost all source of income but his comrades can reverse his failure by paradroping crates to his base. Or in low resources starts, team players could pretty much feed resources to x player so he can make a mass of y units early on.

I'd rather have a support power than a dedicated unit for this. Or mabe both. A support power that deploys a supply truck, like the Field Buerau deploys Drakuvs. A simple unit is much easier to spam than a support power, and that could lead to all the problems you envisioned, but you also have a fair point with that getting money from A to B should be a tactical challenge. Although any sort of difficulty could be easily eliminated by simply having a unit in your ally's base, having your ally deploy the crate right there, and then picking it up with the said unit. So the way this would be implemented, whether by supply drops or trucks, wouldn't really change a thing. This is kinda good, tho. We have 4 factions, not all of them need to use the same delivery system. We could have paradrops, supply truck deployments, etc, ideally a different approach for all 4 factions.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 08:59 PM

Someone over at PPM (i think creator) made an allied container truck unit. That could be used.

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 11:16 PM

i really like the idea of funds support power.

ok lets see 

allied: drop crates from a cargo plane; require ore purifier and air force command.
soviet: deploy a truck (could be old Libyan demo track); require industrial plant and Field Bureau (can deploy from industrial plant).

epsilon:deploy a driller ; require grinder and radar spire(can deploy from grinder). 

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 01:49 AM

Epsilon could have a radically different approach maybe, instead of deploying money crates in some way, they could deploy gem patches using Ares' logic that allows Tiberian Sun style mutant deaths. basically a vat-grown something, not unlike a Bloatick, that could explode itself into a gem patch. This might be too radical and not very well fit for MO, I'm really just brainstorming.

 

Foehn could get an infantry to do the job, again, using Ares logic, if possible. IIRC it is. Basically, a hacker-like guy who could target a specific type of structure like the Ore Refinery of an ally, and apply a quasi "reverse drain beam" on it, that drains your money and increases the ally's.


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 04:37 AM

I think adding faction diversity to an idea like a support truck is kind of overdoing it.

Next thing you know, faction dogs need to have their own special abilities.

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 05:28 AM

 


I'd rather have a support power than a dedicated unit for this. Or mabe both. A support power that deploys a supply truck, like the Field Buerau deploys Drakuvs. A simple unit is much easier to spam than a support power, and that could lead to all the problems you envisioned, but you also have a fair point with that getting money from A to B should be a tactical challenge. Although any sort of difficulty could be easily eliminated by simply having a unit in your ally's base, having your ally deploy the crate right there, and then picking it up with the said unit. So the way this would be implemented, whether by supply drops or trucks, wouldn't really change a thing. This is kinda good, tho. We have 4 factions, not all of them need to use the same delivery system. We could have paradrops, supply truck deployments, etc, ideally a different approach for all 4 factions.

 

Hmm, both could work aswell, support power could be used for smaller cash donations (2000 ?) and has longer cooldown, trucks could be summoned faster and hold more cash.

 

Unique way for each faction to deliver cash is abit overboard. Aside from faction specific trucks it shouldnt go overboard.


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 08:13 AM

Why not a tech building that allows summoning (or randomly summons) a neutral Supply Truck. Now this supply truck would work the same as the spy plane does: Spawns from one side of the screen and heads for the opposite side (dunno how it work on maps with water as borders, supply plane?), so even though triggering the Supply Truck is in the hands of the owner of the tech building, it could be still intercepted by the enemy.


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 08:46 AM

That cannot work, I believe. Aircraft and Vehicles are coded differently. I've never seen the latter being able to be summoned from off the map other than by triggers

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