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[UNSC THE CHILL OF WAR]

Some of tje earlier act 2 missions have briefings

by 'some' you mean one, which is Awake and Alive...
...which only has a few lines

It was that one I looked at so i thought the rest had them

[qymon]

- nerf: Target Painter armor decrease changed from 25% to 20%, but duration was 'increased' to 12 seconds

but the website says the duration is 40 seconds. What's the actual duration?

 

in fact，it last for 10 seconds in present version.   40 seconds is too long ,it's a mistake

 

Edit :

sorry to say that I use time in real life ,not timer in game.this may cause some...mistake

 

but the website does have some contradiction ,

take irritator‘s flare for example,  the website says 6s,its AttachEffect.Duration=360 (timer in speed 5 ,real life)

While target painter,the website says 40s. its AttachEffect.Duration=600 (timer in game)

Edited by qymon, 17 June 2017 - 12:36 PM.

[CLAlstar]

I think its a time considered on other game speed but im not sure.

[bengast]

Woot briefings for Act 2 missions!

 

realease now so I can enjoy dem :C

[Speeder]

Target Painter definitely doesn't last that long so it must be an error on the website.

[pikachu11]

Target Painter definitely doesn't last that long so it must be an error on the website.

Okay, thanks.

[PACER]

Target Painter definitely doesn't last that long so it must be an error on the website.

In fact the unit description page on the website has quite some bugs, it may need to be checked thoroughly (according to wiki perhaps).

[Handepsilon]

Like how Invaders' beam are generally negligible (especially to armor) and how Siege Cadre's beam barely do damages to infantries. I think the website says otherwise...

[fff]

I like the new changes in the change log.

 

Though i wonder what does this change mean?

** change: improved the acceleration and deacceleration of most of land and naval units, removed slowdowns when stopping **

Also i liked the new riot trooper model, quite different yet similar to the old one.   so thumps up.

[Solais]

Malver looks kinda weird? Almost seems like some girl from far. (inb4 trap)

 

I wonder if the Foehn Cyclops will ever get its "intended" model.

Edited by Solais, 20 June 2017 - 10:02 PM.

[TeslaCruiser]

I like the new changes in the change log.

 

Though i wonder what does this change mean?

** change: improved the acceleration and deacceleration of most of land and naval units, removed slowdowns when stopping **

Also i liked the new riot trooper model, quite different yet similar to the old one.   so thumps up.

The time it takes a unit to achieve full speed and how fast can they stop. I guess

[StolenTech]

you can see that with a borillo, if you order it to move then to attack something it takes it's sweet time rotating untill it starts shooting

[Handepsilon]

Or nuwas.

screw those nuwas :v

[GuardianGI]

Or nuwas.

screw those nuwas :v

Not the Nuwas under YOUR control though, I will get nuked to death by those. -_-"

Edited by GuardianGI, 21 June 2017 - 01:53 PM.

[PACER]

Or nuwas.

screw those nuwas :v

Its rotation will receive a buff in 3.3.2 and it'll be much less painful

[UNSC THE CHILL OF WAR]

Nuwas need to have the range increased

[TeslaCruiser]

They are range 8 already
Their problem is they are too slow and have problems acquiring targets. This issue is addressed in 3.3.2
*Nuwa Cannon ROT increased from 2 to 3

[TeslaCruiser]

I have a question about the cyclops
Why they are tougher than Rhino, faster than a Bulldog, as fast as a Mantis, and capable of destroying buildings almost as fast as Borillos (using same numbers while Borillo is tier 2 and 1000)
They have for some weird reason a better range than any other MBT... so this all is because they can only use their full firepower in CQC?
Please do something about this unit, it is not like foehn have problem killing buildings in early game (lancer/ jackal-lancer) this thing is one of the reasons why HH is absurdly strong in small maps, not to mention foehn ability to build better repair drones for 800
What kind of change do I suggest?
1-Removing its ability to crush infantry (so the building 'snipe' can be countered) or
2-Maybe a general stat nerf (HP comparable to the faster tanks 300-350 HP, speed reduction to 6) or
3-A modifier to its building time, something like elits/adepts nerf
In addition, minermite remain a general issue in foehn strategies, I can safely predict the most common foehn cheese remain a problem in 3.3.2 things like jackal+lancer+mites, jackal+clairvoyant+mite, cyclops+mite. Not to mention minermite+megalodonw

[qymon]

faster than a Bulldog and as fast as Mantis. Excuse me? speed 7 has some difference?

 

and about damage against Structure

and in my test after seeing your post  :against Nuclear Recator(concrete) or against Soviet War Factory(wood)

 

Cyclops (no close)  performs rather bad against Borillo, its perfromance is worse than even Mantis

 

if get close Cyclops just does a liitle better than Borillo

but I have to say that Cavalier or Rhino(I just choose randomly) does almost as fast as Borillo too against concrete 

(Rhino is a little slower,and Cavalier is a little faster if constant attack)

and they two does better than Borillo against  wood

 

And Cyclops's Firepower buff range is 3.5,Borillo range is 5, MBT's range is always above 3.5

 

I don't want to upload gifs to prove myself because Chinese's using Imgur is rather troublesome ,but everyone can do test himself

Edited by qymon, 24 June 2017 - 03:03 AM.

[TeslaCruiser]

I thought bulldog was speed 6 for some reason

There is many MBT that deal damage against buildings close to borillo... how many of those are speed 7? how many speed 7 tanks have 450 HP?
Maybe you are unfamiliar with the issue, but cyclops are used as building killers and nothing prevent the player from taking advantage from the damage multiplier. My comment is about that and the problem I see is this: a speed 7 tank with tough armor that can perform a strong attack against buildings. Now you have done some tests, think about this: If Rhino were a speed 7 tank would you think it is balanced?