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#641 00 Nobody

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Posted 03 December 2005 - 02:42 PM

for the SupW General.

B3 Spirit A -- can only be built at an advance airfield (has extra large hangars).
B3 Spirit B -- smae as B3 Spirit A, except for weapons.
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A: holds 10 carpet bombs. can be loaded with units for paradrops.
B: Holds 1 nuke. much more expensive. cannot load units.
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Advanced Airfield -- has extra large hangars to hold B3 spirits. can hold units from regular airfield if neccessary. Builds Comanche, Blackhawk, and Apache.
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Posted 03 December 2005 - 02:55 PM

I like this idea, but how about var A be for Granger and B for SupW?
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Posted 03 December 2005 - 02:57 PM

K, then they'd both need Advanced airfields. maybe Adv. Airf. would be able to repair 2-4 helis at once.

Edited by 00 Nobody, 03 December 2005 - 07:14 PM.

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Posted 03 December 2005 - 07:25 PM

I think that the internet center should be able to hold 10 hackers, so they can ALL be protected at once. Also, maybe the tank gen should have the AT Gattling cannons as alternatives to a regular gattling cannon... I got my butt kicked by a hard Inf gen just because my stupid gattling cannons would barely damage their men. Seriously, they should die pretty quickly, I mean it's AP bullets for crying out loud! It should be able to kill infantry even faster! and if that isn't changed, at least give him regular gattling cannons as a second type of automated defense. I'm the type of player who wins using at most 15 units to wipe out an enemy's base, and I ended up having 75 units defend my base. to get technical, that was all of my units. that makes PR a bit unbalanced, seeing as how a few men can destroy something that fires on em for 10 seconds on each man non-stop. Please Vanguard, give the tank gen gattling cannons AND AT Gattling cannons, maybe let him have 2 types of gattling tank too, one AT and one not. thanks. :sad:

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Posted 03 December 2005 - 10:55 PM

yea but that will make the tank gen to overpowred
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Posted 03 December 2005 - 10:55 PM

yea but that will make the tank gen to overpowred
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 02:33 AM

How about an option at gattling weapons to switch between AP and AT rounds?

About the bomber:

The Spirit is actually the B-2 :sad: and I don't think it can paradrop anyone because it's a bomber. A C-130 is better for this.

Also, like I said, the USA isn't about to deploy nukes on terrorists. Something big would be good, though.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 03:21 AM

Actually, the Spirit is a perfectly acceptable paradrop unit, it's bomb bays could hold vehicles and men, and, when opend, they could drop the units down, then the parachutes open...

It could easily be a paradropper/bomber for the price of one. The US has been looking into using bombers as paradrop planes.
Oh yeah, how's about the AirF gen gets a new variant of the cargo plane.
Starlifter Cargo Plane -- looks like a cargo plane, but with an extra set of wings behind and above the first set. just a better version of the C-130 cargo planes being used by the Americans.
can take 50% more damage. is 20% faster.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 03:42 AM

Theoredically, yes, but it would have to be modified quite a bit to be a paradrop plane.

We could have a new plane for paradrops that is stealth. It could have a single pair of wings that are like the F-23 only shorter and wider with a narrow triangular body on the front.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 03:57 PM

Yes, but mainly for the men. vehicles could easily fit into the bomb holders in the bomb bay, and dropped like that. infantry would be the only reason, so maybe not that much modification to the original design.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 04:12 PM

A B-2 isn't designed to have people in the bomb compartment, and they would probably need easy acess to the cockpit and have another room or two, which wouldn't work in a bomber. The insides would have to be modified quite a bit, so you might as well get a new plane.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 05:38 PM

Not really, because I've been inside the bomb bay of one, each holder looks to be the right size for a tank, and then all they would need is a door in the back for paratroops. easy leasy, johnny queasy. no idea why I just said that.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 06:03 PM

hmmm wut the hell was that? ;)

dont worry im just joking :)

well how about naming it a Modified b2 and let it have soome troop compartments?
or assume that the paratroops dont need comfort and just drop them through the bombays
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 06:44 PM

You'd definetly need a back door so you can jump out and open the chute at the right time instead of the ground opening up under you. You would also need another compartment so people can hang out there if they aren't going to be paradropped right away along with the rest of the team.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 07:35 PM

Yeah, but that isn't very much change, is it? :p
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 08:24 PM

Actually, covert ops have (uncomfirmed, of course) dropped out of the bombay doors. At super low speed with HALO gear, of course.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 09:15 PM

Well instead of making it drop out of bombers, how about making the bombers drop landing craft? It would drop something like crates down and the troops would pile out of it....

Granted they survive the impact of course, or allow the landing craft to have air brakes to slow it down seconds before touchdown.

Landing craft would have about 10 troops each.
But is the drop pod idea only for granger or the other gens as well?
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 11:50 PM

I think the drop pods should be Alex if they only come from space and not a plane.

Crave: That would work, but there's also a few slight problems: Low speed and HALO gear.

A door in the back would be pretty hard to do because you have to make a whole new compartment, reroute whatever circuts run through the area where you're adding it, possibly even move the engines farther apart, and convert the bomb bay to a spot to keep the crew. It would probably be easier to build a whole new plane ground up.
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Posted 05 December 2005 - 01:45 AM

@Link
I mean low speed like... not supersonic-rip-your-face-off speed.
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Posted 05 December 2005 - 10:52 PM

They jumped out of bomb bay doors all the time during World War II. Agents, paratroops and supplies, that is. :rolleyes: The B-24 was the favorite plane of choice for such missions.
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