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[Phoenix911]

Firstly you uber tank kinda sounds OTT and also dose not fit well with the tank general, The tank general is about spearheading and frontal assaults, he puts his trust in powerful armor "NOT" high tech equipment. He likes tried and tested units.
This is why he has such a large number of different tanks but are not super high in tech, The only high tech weapon he has would be the lighting weapon (if i remember rightly) But even then the tech to make lighting coils and such is not actually new.
He has the chimera for modular weapons and the shit-an as i call it has the basic upgrades on top, it also dose pump out the damage, use it vs a SW or Command center and just watch the health of those high health buildings get pawned.
Bat hay if you feel give a quick sketch of the unit in your head top and side view to give us a clearer picture.

The defense I'm not too fused over tank gen would rather attack rather than defense and so him not having the almighty defense that some other teams have is fine by me, He dose have btw the modular basic defenses that has lighting coil, SRM and the other defense upgrade (can't remember the last one lol)
So in all the tank gen is pretty much perfect apart from some small tweaking give or take, but pend will now doubt look over all sides once the GLA and AI is done to make sure he has it balanced and also maybe add or beef up a unit or 2.

But judging by your name "tank general ace" i am inclined to be leave that tank gen is your fav gen right?
So might you be a little biased and just want your general to be The most powerful?
Do you play PvP? playing the Cyber gen may make you think he is too weak but that would be because the AI is pretty good but rather the cyber side has some pretty good units, he is an all round team.
Vs other side you will find that the tank general is very impressive, also you must remember some sides will be weak vs other sides its just how the game go's IE: flame/toxin vs infantry gen, Infantry vs tank gen (infantry can build and great number of AT troops in moments) I'm sure you get that picture.

But anyways we will talk with pend about your idea's defense i would see the most likely out of the 2 being adjusted You first idea i thinks a little OTT

[Phoenix911]

hmm well i was not actually looking towards high tech, i was more looking for a huge hunk of metal with a lot of guns, ofcourse i dont want it to be overpowered, it may sound like it and ime not a balancer but it would be an interesting unit, i was just thinking it up and thought how cool id think it to have a unit with layers of guns like that but its not rly important i thought id just throw it in there, and yes maybe i will draw it,ime not sure how to insert my own picture in these forums since ime quite new but ill draw the thing to give you a clear image (altho ime not an artist )

well yeh your right, i usually myself use a large group of tanks to push the border, and yes i play against Robot AI, hes hard indeed, especially on insane mode, but i dont feel hes weak, infact Tank general for me is the strongest imo, love the variety of tanks, i just thought his defence model was a little weak no offence to the model, it probably serves its purpose but i just once again thinking of fun factor, probably not balance, his tanks are all the defence he really needs

nah i dont want my general to be most powerful, i just thought id suggest some ideas that may be fun, imo he is already the most powerful or one of the best balacned thanks to his variety of weapons he can call upon when the going gets tough, i just thought a diffrent super unit thats a little more beastly than the Shaiton in look and design and perhaps a more beastly looking Defence rather than the cannons simply for cosmetics rly

thanks Phoenix, nothing too drastic just mainly some fun factor things, the general himself imo is very well balanced at least for his own needs in weapons and vehichles and a nice variety, but ofcourse since hes my fave general as you correctly guessed, i like a beast of a super unit or at least one that looks quite beastly, the Shaiton is cool but does not completly take me, wheras a multi gunned modular fortress type unit would be interesting, but only an idea, ill get drawring

thanks for the feedback tho gl with the mod pend

Well the tank idea did kinda sound like it was leaning to a high end tech level but i guess depending on the look it could be kinda ok, all tho the loud out you speak of i think would need to be tweaked a lot till it was balanced.
And don't matter i have sketched my ideas out before and they are far from perfect, it gives an idea of what u are picturing and you can always explain parts of the picture when posted, Also if you want to put a picture up there is 3 ways.
1) sign up to the forums and when u click on post reply if u look below the message box you will see "attachments" you could upload it via that then once it is uploaded it will have the option to add to the post.
2) visit a free picture hosting site google one there are loads then upload the picture, Many of them give u a number of links 1 being a forum link that would have the [img] tabs around it already and so forth.
U could copy that link and put into the forums
3) when replying to a post you can also hot link a picture in 2 ways at the top of the post where you have the extras like changing your text font and color and such there is 2 buttons 1 is "insert link" and the other is "insert picture" Click on them and follow the instructions. Link will simply redirect us to a page the picture is hosted by someone or where you had uploaded it, and picture will place the picture in your post.

Some of the models pend did not make and are being used because he himself has the permission from the makers or the model/s was put up by someone for anyone and everyone to use.
Personally i hate the shit-an lol, the model i think is ok but it could be a lot better. Something about it just ain't right. Also i feel it is slow sluggish and armor wise ain't so great (but damage output makes up for that i guess)
I would rather use chimiras because they have higher armor and a little faster and they can be adapted to the needs at the time on the field, so not only a second weapon option but then after u can get a extra bonus on top like propaganda tower of gattling guns.
However a mass hord of war masters and troop crawler support units with a frenzy or 2 tanks mixed in can be both more effective and cost effective.


PS: even with your l33t tank general an infantry general player would make you eat lead and shit bricks.
Tank gen would kill any armor pretty easy and sure tank general can get a number of anti infantry units.... However u must take into consideration that
1) infantry are far cheaper and build far faster than armor making them more cost effective.
2) infantry gen gets an upgrade to make his rpg troops do 25% extra damage or attack speed (can't remember but i am sure its damage almost).
3) he gets an advance anti tank infantry trooper and he also gains from that 25% upgrade bonus.
4) infantry gen build infantry in platoons
5) neutron weapons will pawn your ass
6) they have a fantastic air force 1 of my fav aircrafts being the artillery strike designator, that drops a bomb that then calls in 12? shells mix that in with neutron mines and you sure wont be having a good day
7) and all tho this might not be such a big deal adding the Inf gens battle fortress full of snipers and AT soldiers could be a big pain for ya. (bearing in mind that the snipers for the infantry gen have great range and carry large caliber anti material rifles like the m82 for instance) And the fortress also has 2 artillery cannons on top so it can rain down fire on you while the snipers do there job and once u get close the player can switch to close range mode push in and let the AT soldier rip up any tanks.

I am sure if you have never played infantry general then u should after reading this point i am sure you can see a MAJOR floor in your super tank general

[Phoenix911]

Personally i thin the AF gen is the best, I have always loved the AF gen my fav ever since zh came out.
And the defenses ain't bad but pend said he will a just the defenses a little because i complained about them a little and he finally caved and agreed that the changes to the defenses would not be so bad. That being said defending is fine add some stryker vehicles to the mix to add some well rounded multipurpose Units as defense or small recon/skirmish forces.

And the AC150 Gunships muhahaha they eat armor and infantry, and personally i always put 3 pilots in each more damage and they unload there ammo faster so they get out of the kill zone quicker so they don't give the ground AA time to hit them, add some awacs for Anti missile and extrema radar range = fun times.

I can only say one thing you better pray to god you never let a AF gen get his Final SW built and ready to fire or else you may as well cry, Best and most powerful SW in game if you ask me.

[Pendaelose]

I'm glad to see some real trafic going.

personaly I love almost every general... in the original ZH I only liked SupW or AirF, and hated tank and laser, but after modding them and spending so much time on each of them I fell in love with each indevidualy in thier own special way. I've made a point to make everyone of them somehting I enjoy, and the less I liked them to begin with the more I've changed them. Most specificly look at Tank, Laser, Robot, and Infantry Generals... they've changed the most.

Also, Just so everyone knows, so far I have had ample internet access, atleast once a day, and last night I loaded all my modding tools on my laptop here. Infact, I logged in mostly so I could read my own list of planned changes and get some work done on the mod. Also, once I'm in my office I'll have full time internet.

unless something changes I should have no problem getting it updated and uploaded even from here. Its a great irony I have to cross the earth to get time to mod.


tomorrow I'll be getting to my new office. I'll be busy for a day or two more, then I should have full time modding going on.

[Phoenix911]

Damn right u better get that modding going on lol

[Hobbes1098]

An ambush tank-destroyer for the stealth or assault gen. It would look like this only draped in camo netting. Should have very weak armor as the gun crew is fully exposed.

http://svsm.org/gallery/m56

Edited by Hobbes1098, 31 December 2007 - 07:19 AM.

[morsematten]

do you think its possble to have stinger/rpg troopers to make sandbags and garrison it so it becomes like a mini stinger site? and from the looks of it, remix have more units then contra. is it true?

[Pendaelose]

An ambush tank-destroyer for the stealth or assault gen. It would look like this only draped in camo netting. Should have very weak armor as the gun crew is fully exposed.

http://svsm.org/gallery/m56

Very nice...

That may make it in game.... .... I like it alot.

do you think its possble to have stinger/rpg troopers to make sandbags and garrison it so it becomes like a mini stinger site? and from the looks of it, remix have more units then contra. is it true?

I have something very similar fo assault general. instead of simple troops that bunker, its pulled trailers that deploy and can bunker. same idea. mobile unit that beomes a base deffnse.

And yes, I actualy have 2 or 3 times as many units as Contra, and my Tech tree is twice as long, with no less than 2 unique super weapons per general (tech2 and tech3)

[Hobbes1098]

Do I win an award for best idea evar?

[Phoenix911]

Do I win an award for best idea evar?

no >.>
I already did for my idea about being 1337 lol

[morsematten]

how to be a tester for remix?

[Pendaelose]

its become a fairly closed group...

the testers I have now are from the first group of testers I accepted... they were the ones who were the most active and most supportive.

The best I can really tell you now would be stick around, play alot, make good comments, and be friendly. friendly goes a long way on my forum. I don't show favor to people who necsicarily agree with me, in fact, my testers seldom agree with me in the staff section... but I do require that on voice his/her opinion in a respectful fasion. thats about it.... lots of feed back, good suggestions.

[Gredinus]

You know I never agree with you ;D

[olli]

I find that Me and you Pend agree on quite a lot, but it's the odd things that we don't agree on.


And being friendly should be expected anyway!

[morsematten]

lol, ok. i was thinking, china has the fire and lightning element, how bout ice too? like weaponary that freezes something with liquid nitrogen, making them eaiser to attack or something.

[Pendaelose]

I dunno. Its definatly cool, but I wasn't planning to do anything so obviously themed. its stilla good laugh just picturing it though.

Also, it would be an uber-painin the ass to mod that. every vehicle and unit would need a "frozen" death condition with a new model made.


Maybe in the distant plans... I dunno about a faction theme, but maybe a single weapon. But for now its not practical just for the amount of work involved... not that it can't be done... its just A LOT of work.