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[olli]

I thought of that once, but i never suggested it.
I thought it was such a cool idea.

The thought came to me after watching a film. A guy gets liquid nitrogen poured over him and then he gets shattered into pieces. If it was used, it could be used as an anti infantry weapon. like instant death, but short ranged.

[morsematten]

i got the idea from Diablo. so cool to just shatter your enemy.

[Phoenix911]

being friendly what is this you speak off? lol
I agree with some things but i have been known to bug pend about a change muhahaha!!!

[Alias]

Also, it would be an uber-painin the ass to mod that. every vehicle and unit would need a "frozen" death condition with a new model made.

You could just code the weapon to be anti-infantry only, and then add some sort of "special" attack against vehicles.

[Thats me!]

this nitrogen weapons should be for sw general

[olli]

I don't think Liquid Nitrogen weapons would suit her. She already has uber strong defenses.

Is hard to fit that type of weapon in to a faction, because they are all a pretty much finished and not recieving anything new, apart from the changes which you can read on the main forum.

[morsematten]

i was thinking that if this weapon becomes a part of the game, it should go to china infantry or tank. because they have more platform to use this nitrogen weapon, by using infantry and tanks. it can be an anti air too, by freezing the plane so it can't continue flying. lol

[morsematten]

i was thinking of an aircraft called the Phoenix. it'll be armed with 6-8 chain guns and is an all rounder. (anti-air, infantry, tanks). it can perhapes replace some planes in the chinese arsenal. and can there be an upgrade against chain gun weapons? like some armour that deflects bullets or something like that

[olli]

There is already a bomber for flame general Called the phoenix, which is fitting. If the plane was to be made it would need a different name.

I actually quite like the idea, even though it is not really needed. Having a plane capable of attacking both ground units and other air units with only just chain gun type weapons is quite cool.
If it was to be made effective against everything, it would need to be " Vulcan" damage and not "gattling damage". and the number of guns should be reduced to about 4, so it is not to overpowered.

The upgrade for reducing damage from chain guns is not needed, because the mod is reaching its upgrade limit and slots need to be saved for more usful upgrades. Also, the chaingun type weapons (gattling tank, minigunners) do very very little damage to tanks, because the damage type is "Gattling", and it is very weak against armour.

[morsematten]

i thought there were only dragons in the chinese airfield. ok, then the plane shall be called the iron tiger. or the crane. or perhapes the iron raven. and i mean gattling damange against planes. a group of gattling tank is able to take down twice as many planes, i observed. there is no true way to avoid gattling, unlike missles with the countermeasure upgrade.

[olli]

vulcan damage does more damage that gattling damage (I think)

And gattling type weapons do barely any damage to tanks, so giving them an upgrade to delfect it is unnessecary.


Also, it has been discussed briefly to make bullet type weapons have x% chance of missing the target to make it more "realistic"

[Alias]

As far as I know, the Comanche_Vulcan damagetype does the exact same damage as Small_Arms, but it can't clear Stinger Sites. And I also believe the only difference between the Gattling damagetype and Small_Arms is Gattling does higher damage to air units and less damage to vehicles.

Edited by Alias, 14 January 2008 - 08:32 AM.

[olli]

I know Vulcan damage does much more damage to tanks that gattling weapons, and rapes infantry. And still does good damage to air units, so it would be practical to just make the damage type vulcan.

[Gredinus]

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[Pendaelose]

I love the movie add....

Commanche_vulcan is like Small_arms, but it does good damage to light vehicles and buildings. It does mild-t-moderate damage to tanks (as oposied to the 1% damage done by small arms). It does normal damage to aircraft.

I usualy use comanche_vulcan for 30mm guns and other "heavy" machine guns.

[Thats me!]

What about let the ion cannon do random damage:
it should have:
50% chance to do normal damage.
20% chance to do 50% less damage.
20% chance to do 50% more damage.
5% chance that it will damage units only
5% chance that will have 3xRadius and destroy everything in its area of effect(uber)

Edited by Silverx, 15 January 2008 - 12:25 PM.

[Pendaelose]

What about let the ion cannon do random damage:
it should have:
50% chance to do normal damage.
20% chance to do 50% less damage.
20% chance to do 50% more damage.
5% chance that it will damage units only
5% chance that will have 3xRadius and destroy everything in its area of effect(uber)

While *almost* any weapon in ZH can be given a randomized damage it saddly is not nearly as easy to do as it would be in nearly any other game. And, for fast firing weapons, such as the gattling cannon you would almost never actualy see any difference between the randomized and the average of all the damages put togeather.

[olli]

I dunno about the gattling cannon, but the ion cannon could be possible to code

And tbh, i dont think it would be nessecary Silverx, because with the overcharge the ion cannon is uber, and does a lot of damage normally. Also, because It is a tech level 3 superwepaon, and about $50000 has to be spent before you can get one, and the timer is over 5 minutes, I don't think it should have a random chance of doing less damage at all, just because it takes so long to get one and so much money, you ant your moneies worth of ownage. Also, if that was done then all superweapons should be made like that to make it fair....

[morsematten]

do you think it's possible to add mercenary into the game? like have a special tech building so when captured, you can spawn different types of special units, can maybe different types to suit different maps? something like age of empires...

[Pendaelose]

do you think it's possible to add mercenary into the game? like have a special tech building so when captured, you can spawn different types of special units, can maybe different types to suit different maps? something like age of empires...

Its possible, but it requires iether all custom maps OR replacing an exsisting tech building.