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#1201 Ubermedic

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 02:02 AM

anyway i got project raptor 2 work i should have something in 1 or 2 days

Does this mean your playing project rapture to find ideas you can steal? Thats very lame if you are.

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 02:07 PM

pend said it was 100% ok
and i am not stealing just reusing

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 03:05 PM

pend said it was 100% ok
and i am not stealing just reusing


tbh, remix has everything and more than what PR has. thats why im not goning to play any other mods after remix 3 is released, because it will be better than the other mods. Pend, what do u thnk about the tank idea for the GLA?
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 03:20 PM

We did not say it was not ok tiker but going out of your way to install another mod just to take there ideas is very very lame, u have a brain use it (i would hope anyways) >.<

I still think the cyber gens fire base and airforce gens would be better if changed to suit the airforce gens infantry defence.
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 04:03 PM

so do u want the ideas i got from project raptor or what?

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 05:31 PM

so do u want the ideas i got from project raptor or what?

Depends are hey good?
I mean honeslt playing a mod just to see there ideas to steal is going past the word "lame" if the idea's are good then tell them if there idea you thought of yourself then say them but i don't hold them in high regaurd as u went out of your way to steal them from another mod.
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 05:33 PM

I'm not hyped about ideas from P.R. While I don't mind ideas that have been used elsewere, I have to agree with Pheonix. It should not be the goal to copy other mods or games.


As for the GLA tank. I've never played the game you mentioned, and I only briefed over what you described... but letme try and see if I got it right...

A large tank with heavy armor and a forward mounted cannon... that sounds like either the Jag Scorpion that was posted a long time ago, or the Maurader. Atleast by description alone its not new.

As I have it now, the Jag Scorpion will be a unit for Demo general. The Maurader will be a Assault general unit.
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 05:46 PM

that not how the tank is if my memory of the game is right the tank he is talking about in that game was called the rhino, and it basicly was a tank had light armor at back and sides but at teh frount it had a slant to it like \ that and it had the gun stiking through it, so the gun had to be aimed with the whole tank.
It had a spike or two on the \ aswell i think.

its ok but not amazing imo.

What about my idea with the 6 tracks back 2 pages?
olli gave me the idea its based around his idea but i refined it.
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 05:51 PM

i didnt get alot of ideas from playing the mod
i dont copy all of them i edit most of the idea they have first

on the battlemaster tank model there was something black on the turret but it didnt do anything so how about a missile upgrade for maybe only the tank general making the battlemaster better againest buildings and other tanks.

The infantry general should get a upgrade that would make the infantries rifles faster.

The infantry general should get a grender which is good againest large groups

How about a new troop transport.
The US could get a black hawk with a chaingun
The chinese should get a ampitious troop crawler with a speed upgrade
The GLA should get a bus with nothing in the back replacing the battle bus(the truck have railings so troops dont fall off. when the is destroyed the troop could set up some covers and use the werkage as cover like the battle bus.)

In project raptor the GLA used a hijacked boeing 747 2 drop things not the other plane already in game.

I think that all the cannon defense in game right now should have a barrage boutton which make the defense cannon fires 5 shells none stop.(recharge time 5 mins)

i suggested 2 use different araments for HUMVEEs a while back what did u ppl think of that. if u thought it was good then maybe the technical could get different weapons 2.

oh and the moblie buildings idea
how much buildings r u actullay going 2 be mobile
and is there going 2 be a MCV that repacks(making survival easier)

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 06:12 PM

on the battlemaster tank model there was something black on the turret but it didnt do anything so how about a missile upgrade for maybe only the tank general making the battlemaster better againest buildings and other tanks.


The battlemaster already gets autoloaders and armor upgrades and can be built in great numbers fast more firepower is not needed when u can build them in numbers pretty cheep.

The infantry general should get a upgrade that would make the infantries rifles faster.


Not too sure but i think the infantry already get some form of upgrade to make them more effective but idk if it is for faster fire speed.

The infantry general should get a grender which is good againest large groups


The infantry general already has a grenadair(sp?)

How about a new troop transport.
The US could get a black hawk with a chaingun
The chinese should get a ampitious troop crawler with a speed upgrade
The GLA should get a bus with nothing in the back replacing the battle bus(the truck have railings so troops dont fall off. when the is destroyed the troop could set up some covers and use the werkage as cover like the battle bus.)


Black hawk idea has been suggested meny times and so has the idea of adding my fav helo the pavelow but pend already said there is no need for it as the chinnok does the job just well.
Amphibios troop crawlers also have been said before and its a nice idea, idk how pend feels on the subject tho and would they be usful? no meny maps have water or lakes.
Why add another unit that does the same thing as the battlebus? i say no to this as there is really no point.

In project raptor the GLA used a hijacked boeing 747 2 drop things not the other plane already in game.

Again this is only a model change why change it when teh standard model ingame works fine?
Also i kinda think the boeing was kinda a piss take in a way and don't agree with it.

I think that all the cannon defense in game right now should have a barrage boutton which make the defense cannon fires 5 shells none stop.(recharge time 5 mins)

The games about defeating the other side we don't want defence to be able to be invincable.
Personly i don't like this idea ask pend.

i suggested 2 use different araments for HUMVEEs a while back what did u ppl think of that. if u thought it was good then maybe the technical could get different weapons 2.


The us already has all the humvees and meny of them are different in some ways ther eis no need for this idea for the humvees. Technicals do not need this as they pick up salvage and upgrade as they get salvage. they start with a mg get incressed armor and they can get a missile on the back if u get salvage, and the gla have a general power that drops savlage to your units so this is not needed.
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 06:14 PM

What about my idea with the 6 tracks back 2 pages?
olli gave me the idea its based around his idea but i refined it.


its ok. personaly I think the idea for the Sandwraith (I think thats the name) having smoke grenades is much better. The current stealth super unit is over powered, but with some reductions in its super aubsurdity, but then add the smoke sceen escape I think it will do great.

You 6 track tank reminds me of another style unit I was considering for Assault general. In old table top Epic 40,000 there was a mobile earth shaker. It used 2 tank bodies with 4 tracks. the Giant cannon sat in the middle between them. When the tanks seperated it lowered the cannon to the ground and deployed. Soemthing like this... a huge cannon comprable to the nuke cannon in size, range and damage would be a good match to a general who has "Good artillery" in his description.



on the battlemaster tank model there was something black on the turret but it didnt do anything so how about a missile upgrade for maybe only the tank general making the battlemaster better againest buildings and other tanks.


It does. I considered exactly that upgrade a few times while making Tank china. Its not a written off idea. I kinda like it, but I'm worried about balance. Tank general's War masters already smacks down other generals starting tanks. If in the final product I feel tank general needs a helping hand I might add it.

The infantry general should get a upgrade that would make the infantries rifles faster.

The infantry general should get a grender which is good againest large groups

They already get mini gunners who get the chain gun upgrade.

I originaly planned out a grenadeer unit, but when the Mortar infantry became a certainty I wrote off the grenadeer. The mortar would do better damage and have better range.

How about a new troop transport.
The US could get a black hawk with a chaingun
The chinese should get a ampitious troop crawler with a speed upgrade
The GLA should get a bus with nothing in the back replacing the battle bus(the truck have railings so troops dont fall off. when the is destroyed the troop could set up some covers and use the werkage as cover like the battle bus.)

The black hawk is a no-go. Theres already the combat chinook.

China already has 3 styles of troop crawler. I don't think another is really needed. Amphibius is cool, but again, I'm not sure its needed

I'm not replacing the bus. I am however reducing the bus to only certain generals and will have a dedicated APC unit for Assault GLA.

In project raptor the GLA used a hijacked boeing 747 2 drop things not the other plane already in game.


no. the GLA cargo plane is fine. There is a model for the 747 built into the game, but if any unit used it, it would be the suicide plane power for Demo GLA.

I think that all the cannon defense in game right now should have a barrage boutton which make the defense cannon fires 5 shells none stop.(recharge time 5 mins)


a definate no. I hate micro management. Theres already as much as I can stand. I'm not adding more.

i suggested 2 use different araments for HUMVEEs a while back what did u ppl think of that. if u thought it was good then maybe the technical could get different weapons 2.


There are actualy several types of humvees. the Avenger, SLID, Ambulance, and basic humvee are all humvee varients. I don't think a modular humvee is needed, though its not a bad idea.
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:50 PM

I like the idea of the big tank u was talking about pend, mine was more of a mobile one but it would be cool if made liek u said. would be better for assult aswell as they could use a stand off atril to support there advancing army.
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 11:36 PM

oh, You hate mirco manegment pend?
Then RoN is not your game.

anyway.

Eariler he said two types of technical.
It has three guns already. (Slavage upgrades)
and for laser gen. why not give him the leviatian from
UT2004. It could use MG's to defend while moving (Not the
green cannons from UT) then deploy and fire it's giant
pwnage cannon. (It's like a big (really big) blue explosion)
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 11:52 PM

oh, You hate mirco manegment pend?
Then RoN is not your game.

anyway.

Eariler he said two types of technical.
It has three guns already. (Slavage upgrades)
and for laser gen. why not give him the leviatian from
UT2004. It could use MG's to defend while moving (Not the
green cannons from UT) then deploy and fire it's giant
pwnage cannon. (It's like a big (really big) blue explosion)


RoN??
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 01:56 AM

Rise of the nations??

i'm guessing lol
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 02:04 AM

oh, You hate mirco manegment pend?
Then RoN is not your game.

anyway.

Eariler he said two types of technical.
It has three guns already. (Slavage upgrades)
and for laser gen. why not give him the leviatian from
UT2004. It could use MG's to defend while moving (Not the
green cannons from UT) then deploy and fire it's giant
pwnage cannon. (It's like a big (really big) blue explosion)


RoN??

if i am right RON is rise of nations
there r 3 RON games
rise of nations
rise of nations:thrones and pariots(expansion)
rise of nations:rise of legends(new game)

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 02:11 AM

yes and all rise of nations is totle crap.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 04:23 AM

I was guessing Rise of Nations, but its not allways good to guess.

they were ok. To me they were just like age of empires. There was less troop micromanagment, more economy and tech micromanagment and more strategy in all those games. almost nothing tactical, but huge troop rushes didn't work at all. Victory was all about controling borders and suply lines. Then siege your enemy to death. pure strategy at a stratiegic level.

they were good in thier own right, but I found they got old very quickly. Rise of Legends wasn't worth more than 3 or 4 hours of my time.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 05:18 AM

Hell Rise of Ledgends was crap.
(Oh and by the way RoL ISN'T a RoN expansion)
anyway... we're kinda off topic...

So as far as I can tell you have some pretty good ideas
for what your are going to be doing for most sides.
Can you tell us (or me at least) what sides you need
ideas for so I can better think?
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 12:07 PM

Gla more gla and maybe more gla...

China is near done its only infantry general thats not done and so he may need more but i think pend knows practicly how he wants him. All the other gens other china sides and all america sides are done, but if u think of a super l33t idea post it pend my use it for alter it for another gen.
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