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[Calamity_Jones]

sounds fun

was that game a bit like this?

[the28ig]

No its not like that But it is fun especially when you use the AT-4 to kill infantry, very satisfying. And contrary to popular belief just because a machine gun is fully automatic doesn't mean you are going to hit anything. I probably did the best out of our group, especially when it came to the machie gun most of them just hit air.

[baldrick15]

but the air is thw worst enemy!!

[caprera]

Hi all guys !! Here i am back !! How u doin' ???

[Boomerang Python]

um busy

[caprera]

That's good !!

[Marcjs]

Now with Ow1 finished OW2 can now be our main concern

[caprera]

Strange to hear u were still working on the C&C mod...but nice: that's real dedication!
Btw i got some questions about the last update for IN\IG. Support weapons will be used by infantry teams or will be used in fixed emplacements as now in Eaw, maybe with two gunners ?

[Boomerang Python]

You'll be able to build support weapons teams, which will be carried by two guys. We'll have something else for the fixed emplacement things.

[caprera]

Forgeworld ?

[Boomerang Python]

yup

[caprera]

I was looking at the space station model and thinking: why it doesen't changes in size ? I mean: it should do it to be able to build larger ships as it goes on...right ?

Edited by caprera, 14 September 2006 - 03:00 PM.

[Calamity_Jones]

in the real world, ships are built in dry docks, giant cavities in the ground with cranes running on either side. They are made from prefabricated chunks that are simply welded together outside. The prefabrication takes place in warehouses next to them. Once finished, the dock is filled and the ship floated out.

In 40k, the ships are built in space, floating about as the different parts are added slowly. Not indoors as it seems pointless to construct a structure to house the vessel as it's being made. There's not even a requirement for cranes due to the 'lack of gravity'...

Go look at the Kuat space map... see the floating star destroyers... think along them lines

[Marcjs]

not to mention space stations dont actually build ships anyway that would be the job of orbtial factorys or some 40k verison

[caprera]

I understand but taking as example Kuat shipyards we should see structures like docks. Seems inevitable to me to have something similar here. Btw the models has already been completed, and i don't want to talk to the wind. just a suggestion. Hope the IN space station will be huge...

[Ash]

Realism on that matter would dictate that the ship superstructure would have to be prefabbed or otherwise assembled, and kept in place by some form of rigging next to the space station to prevent it drifting, and other ships, either small and unmanned drones or even guys in jetpacks or small fighter-sized with welding torches ( ) would deal with the exterior work and fitting parts and engine drives etc. Sort of like Homeworld shows the Mothership to be constructed.

Unless you planned to construct inside the atmosphere, which would be impractical and pointless for a space station XD

[Calamity_Jones]

fortunately, one of the great things with eaw is you never directly see manufacture. you essentially "order" the equipment. In the galaxy map, you simply click on what you want, hand over the cash and wait for it to be completed. But you don't actually see the station, just icons.

In skirmishes, you get new ships hyperspaced in, again implying that they are merely ordered.

This idea is of course far more realistic than constructing an actual factory on the front lines of combat a la command and conquer, which is rediculous. You get a fixed number of units, pre made elsewhere to engage in a battle with.

So, in ow2, the actual manufacture can be taking place in some un specified location, (for the manufacture of units, as a military commander, is none of your concern) and are delivered to where you "ordered them from" when finished. Space vessels are huge and expensive undertakings, so if they take a long time to manufacture, a LONG time and cost a lot, players will take more care. Plus they'll be far more awesome than the EAW ones

As regards to being able to purchase at different space station levels, well, stations are a sign of level of control over a world. They will also be enormously increased in price. I mean.. come on.. 600$ for a station that is tens of thousands x the size of a person costing a mere 6x the cost of 18 storm troopers... rediculous.
Boats in the modern world cost hundreds of millions of dollars, even several billions in the case of the big aircraft carriers, compared to the training and equipment of a solder that probably sums to a a few thousand $ (prolly more with all the wages and stuff...)

Long story short... a planet with a big huge fuck off station over it is an important planet, and a fooking well defended planet, and thus a planet that is suitable for crewing and loading up a big starship that has just finished manufacture without fear of it being blown to shit by enemies whilst it's still just a big expensive empty shell. (it's not the manufacturing plant's responsibility to provide crew, besides... what do you have planets for? disposable minions of course!)

Edited by Calamity_Jones, 15 September 2006 - 06:12 AM.

[Stargazer]

billions of those foolish minions damn hive worlds of the imperium...

so basically, will these huge fuck off stations be quite strong to the point where you need alot of ships to take it down? or pussy like the space stations in EaW are?

Edited by Stargazer, 15 September 2006 - 12:36 PM.

[Calamity_Jones]

well, i'd like to see them actually being good

the ones in EAW, like you said, suck...

It'd make you really think about building a station, rather than slapping one down on every planet.

You know the satellites, the sensor and grav well ones. Well, we could have defence platforms buildable that way which are little more than a platfrom with a load of gunz, cheaper and quicker to build than a station.

Sussed

[Stargazer]

it would be uber strong and the necrons would just warp inside of it and kill everything...

that would suck...

but really strong stations which cost alot so you can defend only your most valued planets sound good.