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How hard do you find Elven siege is against FoL?

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#61 Olorin

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 12:23 PM

This is where being on this forum for more than a year really pays off. I need to get a life. :sleep: Have you heard of the siege of Dol Guldur? That was pulled off by the combined forces of Mirkwood and Lothlorien, against one of Sauron's main strongholds. Apart from that I don't know of any attacks, unless they were before the War of the Ring, which is where the mod is made about. :wub:
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 12:31 PM

you're right!!!!
i remember something of the book which said something like that yes!

in BFME2 you had to siege Dol Guldur with Dwarves too :sleep:
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 01:21 PM

the siege of Dol Guldur was a slaughter, not a fight :sleep:
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 03:43 PM

a slaughter for the elves or for the orcs?

(dol guldor in BFME2 sucked by the way, it was no fun at all)
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 07:19 PM

Without treachery no one can stand up to the power of an elven force attacking :sleep:

Without treachery no one can stand up to the power of an elven force attacking :wub:
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#66 Elvenlord

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:23 PM

You know, he's right :sleep:
I can't think of a battle the elves lost that was not due to treachery

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:31 PM

why do you post double and repeat yourself??

why do you post double and repeat yourself??
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#68 Elvenlord

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:52 PM

Internet.
Can't tell if you did it just to make fun of me........the god of spam does not like being made fun of.... I will command the king of spam to deal with you..........
Anyways, the point of the topic: elven seige is fine.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:19 PM

I think that it is a little harder for the Elves to assault a full blown fortress :sleep: but adding the Ents to the elves might help :wub:

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:25 PM

And succeed in removing both their and Rohan's siege uniqueness...
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:44 PM

The elves also assaulted Angmar in the early third age. Just saying. :sleep:

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:57 PM

Oh, thanks matias, I thought we were through with that line of thought. :sleep:
No, if you have all their heros and powers, plus some galadhrim with ha and fire arrows to mop up, any fortress will fall

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 07:32 AM

the god of spam does not like being made fun of.... I will command the king of spam to deal with you..........

*in Igor's voice* What is thy bidding, master? :p :D You should sig that. :p

Oh, thanks matias, I thought we were through with that line of thought. :p
No, if you have all their heros and powers, plus some galadhrim with ha and fire arrows to mop up, any fortress will fall

Quoted for the truth. Let this be the end of this discussion: Elven siege is balanced and doesn't need any changes whatsoever. No recruitable Ents, no balistae (at least in TEA), and definately no extra units.
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Posted 26 May 2007 - 06:02 PM

Quite frankly, I'm for thinking Elven Siege is fine. It relies on powers, but, but the time you are actually going to siege, you have them anyway. At least in my experience.

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I'd go with 2d3, 3d6, 1/2d7, 1d10, 14d12, 8d20, 13 quarters, and a groundhog.

I'm not sure if you'll need all that, but if you figured out a system from it, it would be the greatest in the world.


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Posted 26 May 2007 - 06:05 PM

I fully agree, by the time you are able to set up a siege you will have Ents and Galadriel available.

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 03:06 AM

moved all TLT talk into its topic
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 12:18 PM

You can take down the front gate easily with only Galadriel and archers, and if they are FU then that's all you might need to take the whole castle :p
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 08:48 PM

Hunter, may I ask? Where did that come from!?!?!?
And I don't think archers can attack the gate anyways, and Galadriel currently can't use her power, so she would have to attack it by hand, and they would probably kill her by then....

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:07 PM

the only time archers can attack a gate is in helm's deep. why?? don't ask me.

but galadriel can attack gates with her powers. i guess the archers will take down enemies upon their walls.

i wish celeglin was here... he'd probably could answer most of all the questions we have her so we can focus upon the though ones. (and with we i mean you of course. :p I don't want to get dirty)
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:30 PM

Hunter, may I ask? Where did that come from!?!?!?
And I don't think archers can attack the gate anyways, and Galadriel currently can't use her power, so she would have to attack it by hand, and they would probably kill her by then....


That is what the archers are for in the first place :p
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