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#681 Canterbury

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 07:43 AM

I no this has been discussed like hell but how accurate would hero archers be compared to a regular archer?
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 01:33 AM

Well, if it helps, Legolas is probably gonna be the most accurate. :p Heroes would probably be slightly more advanced than their troops, but I guess that their race would determine it, i.e. Elves and the Dunedain would be the most accurate, followed by Mortal Men (namely the people of Dale, Haradrim, perhaps Gondor and Rohan), then Dwarves and finally Uruks and Orcs (although Uruks can probably be counted among the Men in my opinion :crazed:).
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Posted 01 July 2007 - 01:07 PM

If Gondor feifdom units are still in the game, howcome we haven't seen any renders of them yet? Are they still being worked on?
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Posted 01 July 2007 - 01:15 PM

@Olorin
I would say that dwarves are pretty accurate when it comes to bows and arrows.
If I remember correctly then it's said something about it in the hobbit.

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 01:59 PM

i am sure that you saw at least some of them :p

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 06:24 PM

No because they wasted many arrows before hitting black squirrel and also before killing deer too...I think only Thorin was hell accurate with bow&arrows as he hit emissary who came to Erebor doors...
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Posted 01 July 2007 - 06:55 PM

and didn't that emissary stand like, a few feet from him, in daylight?
besides, wasn't it just fired a volly about the door, not specificly Thorin? And, did thorin ever shoot out the doors? :p I didn't think he shot after the Esgaroth and Mirkwood emissaries.... only shouted them away...
of course, you could be talking about another Thorin, or Dain, but me not know....

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 08:08 PM

No because they wasted many arrows before hitting black squirrel and also before killing deer too...I think only Thorin was hell accurate with bow&arrows as he hit emissary who came to Erebor doors...

Sure , but have you ever tried to shoot with arrow and bow ? It's pretty damn hard in my opinion.

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 09:00 PM

and its hard to hit something smaller than the arrow itself (black squirrel). hungry hungry dwarves.
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Posted 01 July 2007 - 10:28 PM

Our concept of Dwarven archers is slowish, accurate and quite powerful at a short range.

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 04:00 AM

No because they wasted many arrows before hitting black squirrel and also before killing deer too...I think only Thorin was hell accurate with bow&arrows as he hit emissary who came to Erebor doors...

Sure , but have you ever tried to shoot with arrow and bow ? It's pretty damn hard in my opinion.

Well it depends on the bow and what your trying to shoot.

Lets say just a regular bow, not compound or longbow, it takes maybe a year to get good at it. Trying to hit a squirrel with a bow and arrow is pretty damn hard, but a human or something running at you is a bit easier.

Trust me I have experience, I'm in the SCA and have tried to hit a man in combat with a bow and arrow

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 08:12 AM

You really cannot judge a race's ability by the one firing at a small, black squirrel, running away, in a dark forest..

Dwarves are strong. Dwarves are good with their hands. They probably have good hand-eye-coord if they're working on intricate things. What more do they need to be good bowmen?

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:51 AM

Dwarves are strong.

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 01:24 PM

What more do they need to be good bowmen?

Well, for starters, you need to have a good sense of distance (don't wanna over- or under-shoot, as if you miss it'll give away your position (sp?)), the knowledge of how strong your bow is, how far you can pull it back, what kind of arrows to use (as arrows too short or too long will break the bow), and keeping your form good (it's better to shoot while standing up, as you'll have (albeit just slightly) a better view of your surroundings) while simultaneously nocking an arrow in the bow.
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 02:55 PM

No because they wasted many arrows before hitting black squirrel and also before killing deer too...I think only Thorin was hell accurate with bow&arrows as he hit emissary who came to Erebor doors...

Sure , but have you ever tried to shoot with arrow and bow ? It's pretty damn hard in my opinion.

Yeah, I have tried. I have bought real bow one time but sadly I have home-made arrows so they aren't very accurate. Still, It is a nice thing to upgrade your accuracy. And I presume hunting is hard but Dwarves are Dwarves and besides they are good warriors and good warriors should be good with all weapons I guess...If an Elf would get an axe I can bet he would wtfpwn orcs like with blade or spear.
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Posted 03 July 2007 - 02:38 PM

Will they be using crossbows or actual longbows/shortbows?

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 02:48 PM

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 05:45 PM

Is there going to be haradrim spear throwers in the mod and
what are Marsh-wraiths?

Is saruman and lurts going to be in the mod?

Edited by harad king, 03 July 2007 - 05:53 PM.

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 06:23 PM

Of course Saruman and Lurtz are in :grin: If you read the first post, it says it only lists new or moved units, and they haven't been move and so aren't on the list.

Marsh wraiths are dead spirits, like Barrow Wights
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Posted 03 July 2007 - 07:34 PM

Of course Saruman and Lurtz are in :grin: If you read the first post, it says it only lists new or moved units, and they haven't been move and so aren't on the list.

Marsh wraiths are dead spirits, like Barrow Wights


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