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[Nertea]

Depends on whether you class me as a tolkien official...

Dur, from 'durb' meaning 'rule' and ghash, meaning fire. so Fire-ruler. I derived it from the ring verse and the one word of Black Speech Gandalf mentions.

[Canterbury]

The moria chieftain switching off with his spear and scimmy would be true to the books, but i dont think it would be necessary. If he did, i think that his spells should include a "cripple" where he throws the spear, and then uses the scimmy. When the timers recharges, he would use the spear again. There shall be no infinite streams of spears!

I just wanted to no if the name durglash was published, or whether or not it was dubbed and given by the fan base.

Edited by Canterbury, 07 March 2007 - 05:11 AM.

[Olorin]

Pity most of you are in different time-zones to me, then I wouldn't have to make such big posts all the time.

You may think that but realistically you would be more vunrable with a spear, with a sword you'll be able to block hits with a spear you can't really. But Durgash still does high damage with a spear but slightly less with a with a sword. I wonder if the mod team has given Durgash something similar to what we have said about this character.

I'm going to disagree with you about blocking with a spear. I happen to know my share about martial arts (not to sound pompous or anything) and there are as many ways to block with a spear as there are with a sword, just that the styles vary. And if there is going to be a spear/sword toggle then the spear should have the armour bonus rather than the sword, because the sword is more of a 'barbaric charging' weapon; if you look at how a spear is primarily used *points to anti-cavalry* it is usually more defensive. Sorry for all the technicalities, but that's just how I see it.

A toggle would be nice or maybe be could just have a Scimitar and a spear throw ability.

Nah, the spear throw wouldn't really suit the Uruk. He didn't actually throw the spear at Frodo in the books, did he now?

I think I rather like him having only one weapon. Other heroes that have a melee/range toggle make sense, but two different melee weapons aren't really different enough to use.

In some mods they have the Witch-King with a mace/sword toggle (some of them don't work, but hey), and usually that works fine. The mace gives a damage bonus while lowering speed, and the sword returns him to normal. It could work similar to that.

[adummy]

-mace's normal give splash damage, and overall lowering his damage, while the sword is one attack that is stronger.
-he could do something like Lurtz's cripple stirke, but he must be next to them and just stabs them.

[Olorin]

Or he could use that ^^ as an ability. Either way, it looks like he's getting a spear.

[adummy]

what makes you think he is getting a spear? the team still has not commented on it

[Olorin]

OK, since you're being so technical. I meant that we (the public) want him to get a spear. And he has a good chance of getting one: it was in the books that he had a spear, and the team sticks to the books (most of the time).

[Azrael]

What I think Durgash might have as abilities:

Rank 1:
Toggle Weapon ~ Spear = Enables "Skewer" +10% Damage
Sword = +10% Speed and +10% Armour

Rank 2:
Frenzy ~ Durgash gains +50% Damage and +50% Armour for 30 seconds

Rank 4:
Fire Ruler ~ Troops near Durgash gain +50% armour and +15% Fire Resistance. (Passive)

Rank 6:
Skewer ~ Pins the unit in place, doing lots of base damage with some added damage over time

[hdh7]

I like that, I think the modders should at least test a sword/spear toggle.

[Alsch]

I rather like it to be a power instead.

[hdh7]

How would a spear be a power without being a spear throw?

[adummy]

what i said. make it more of a close range cripple strike.

[Alsch]

Yeah. Either of those would be good.

[Olorin]

I like the cripple idea for the spear, but I also like Azrael's "Skewer" ability. Hard to choose between them...but yeah, I agree with hdh7: the modders could test the spear toggle, see how it goes.

[Nertea]

I'm gonna wait until you've agreed on something and they tell you what we decided a couple months ago .

[Olorin]

Alright *puts ideas in hats and randomly picks one* I'll go with Azrael's ability, give the mod something new. Now tell me what you decided!

Edited by Olorin, 09 March 2007 - 05:18 AM.

[adummy]

agreed

[Azrael]

Just for the record, the Skewer ability I suggested was a close-range ability, not a spear throw, just in case anybody thought the Toggle meant it was a spear throw.

EDIT:
Fixed the double post.

Edited by Azrael, 08 March 2007 - 01:36 PM.

[Canterbury]

Now enough of this gurglashs character, what heroes do you think would come out of Mt Gundabad? Also are hobgoblins included in this game, or are they portraited as the uruk?

Edited by Canterbury, 08 March 2007 - 10:37 PM.