"EvilMen" faction!
#781 Guest_KP_*
Posted 24 June 2009 - 04:11 AM
DigiByte: Glad to hear that you came back to working on parts of the mod.
Nazgul: I hope I can give some good ideas with these:
Haradrim anti-cavalry from Total War
or THIS if its more realistic...
Easterling Archery from Fourth Age BfME-1 mod
Rhun should have mounted archers to...
Get both infantry and cavalry on the walls.
Mahud infantry (Total War)
And some Khandish design from BfME-1 mod 4th Age
I didn't want the post to be to long so I saved the name and heroes for another time
#782
Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:46 PM
Officially I left SEE some time ago, But I found out no-one was finishing my models so... WEll im back to finished the Rhun stuff.
Sounds great. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished models.
#783 Guest_KP_*
Posted 05 July 2009 - 11:13 PM
Zimoo, WHAT WAS THAT????? You are on the project team and you believe that Sauron is the only kingdom-leader of evil and his allies are ACTUALLY his servants???? Why don't you hurry up and READ SOME OF THE TOLKIEN FRANCHISE BOOKS??? I personally think that any book about the armies of middle-earth (Weapons and Warfare, aside from lying about MotD's fate) would be great healthy-food for the LotR section of your brain . And the more factions a mod has, the more variety it has! Aren't things great when we work together???Boring.
*Yawns*
How many mods have an evil men faction? Try coming up with something more unique and I might actually offer you some constructive ideas, rather than summing up the entire thread in one word
Personally, I'd say split Rohan/Dale out of their respective faction(s) and replace goblins with them. That way is atleast unique (maybe not the Rohan thing, but the good/evil unbalance).
Lets face it, evil is split into two groups, Isengard and Mordor. Even these 2 are not very independent. Good however is split up into tons of independently acting kingdoms. It's not like the evil side where 1 lord holds dominion over all. I say unbalance good/evil (not that it makes a tiny bit of difference, for all you morons who are bound to come in arguing that there is now more good factions than evil).
Also, with evil being squashed into two factions, it gives them more variety, which IMO they have always lacked.
#784
Posted 06 July 2009 - 01:31 PM
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 10:10 PM
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#786
Posted 10 July 2009 - 08:33 AM
Ok, Easterlings and Haradrim were not as servants of Sauron as Orcs and Trolls were, but they didn't have much of a will of their own, they actually submitted to the power of Sauron.
I, on the other hand, think they should be kept as part of Mordor, Isengard (whose "servants" and not allies were for instance the Dunlendings) being the other faction of Evil, as it was in Tolkien's depiction of the Third Age.
I love it that the names Erebor, Lórien and Gondor are coming Rohan is needed, too for real
Also, I commented this to Naz a while back, although he might not recall it: "EvilMen", not cool, something like Men of the East, or Rhun (to keep with the LOCATION naming thing), a lot better
You might say "Haradrim are not from Rhun", but then again I would say, yes they are! Rhun means "East" in Sindarin, as you may know, and these kingdoms of evil men were LOCATED to the "East" of Middle-earth. You have to accept it, it's waaay better than "EvilMen" =/
#788
Posted 11 July 2009 - 02:57 AM
Men of the East is more appropriate, but a location name, like all the other factions, would be better. Although on second thoughts, I wonder if it isn't better to keep them as part of Mordor, after all, they men of Rhun and Harad acted like some sort of division of the armies of Mordor. What you guys think? Although I suppose Naz and Sul and the team already made up their minds about the new faction. What was that about only being able to ad 1 more faction? Rohan should totally be in the mod
*Edited to correct a couple nasty errors
Edited by Beriadan, 12 July 2009 - 03:34 AM.
#789
Posted 11 July 2009 - 10:00 AM
What that was about only being able to add one more faction?
Well, in BFME2 there's only room for one more faction that is able to use the extra stuff like CaH, so adding Rohan as a separate faction will be perfectly possible, and I think it has already been decided that this will happen.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 12:54 PM
#791
Posted 11 July 2009 - 01:01 PM
I hope that helped out somewhat.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 09:58 PM
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#794
Posted 13 July 2009 - 12:43 PM
i think i like MOTE better.since theres MOTW and its sounds better than harad,rhun and khand as a whole name.what about easterlings?would that work?
Men Of The West will be replaced by 2 separate factions: Rohan and Gondor. This is why I would think of Men Of The East as out of place...
By the way, as Beriadan said:
You might say "Haradrim are not from Rhun", but then again I would say, yes they are! Rhun means "East" in Sindarin, as you may know, and these kingdoms of evil men were LOCATED to the "East" of Middle-earth.
Rhun at least has my vote!
Easterlings would have my second vote, but I still like having a territory attached to the name more....
#795
Posted 13 July 2009 - 11:46 PM
Well thats my input, keep up the good work!
#797 Guest_KP_*
Posted 15 July 2009 - 12:50 AM
Men of the East will be the OFFICIAL name. Otherwise, it would be:What about something like
Servants of Sauron
or
Army of Sauron
or
Eastern Armies of Sauron
Supporters of Sauron
or
Allies of Sauron
or
Eastern Allies of Sauron
That is the function...
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#799
Posted 15 July 2009 - 08:05 AM
I don't like the way of saying this will be the OFFICIAL name, but I think that was just a misunderstanding... I guess he rather meant it as "It would fit better."
Edited by zakske, 15 July 2009 - 08:05 AM.
#800
Posted 15 July 2009 - 09:18 AM
Ok thanks mate but I respectfully disagree with him
If you remember the parts of the movie with gandalf and sarumon
Quote from sarumon
You did not think that a hobbit could contend with the will of sauron did you? Their are none that can.
Quote from Gandalf
Their is only one lord of the ring, only one can bend it to his rule. And he does not share power.
Quote from gollum ( 2nd movie )
Wicked men, servants of sauron
Quote from faramir
Servants of the Dark Tower ( also meaning Sauron )
Quote from gandalf (3rd movie )
Our enemy is ready, his full strength gathered. Not only orcs but men as well. Legions of haradrim from the south. Mercenaries from the coast. All will answer Mordors call.
Now I'm sure some of these quotes were in the books. And they sure don't sound like Sauron is asking his neighbors politely to help him out. It sounds like he is in charge of it all. If your going to say that they were supporters or allies then you have to say the same for sarumon which I think is wrong. Evil dosn't have allies they have the one in charge and their henchmen.
I don't see why they can't be called servants. I would not call them allies as being called an ally implies you have a choice in the matter. I seriously doubt they were given much of a choice, unless you consider join him or die a choice.
Edited by ttandchotmail, 15 July 2009 - 09:19 AM.
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