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[Grig]

Thank goodness, you guys are short enough on modelers as is

And I think that horse model rocks... the armor bit is a nice touch - but it would probably make the rider pretty slow. Wouldn't be much use outside of a full-on charge. Especially given how it sorta looks like its a big tank lol.

Not criticizing - just saying how the Men of the East might wanna re-think their design

Edited by Grig, 13 September 2008 - 12:01 PM.

[Nazgûl]

No Naz, don't take this as a resignation... Of course it isn't

Thanks Lauri. I'm not part of this discussion. I appreciate you both , and you've been with me for a loong time. I'd rather not change that...

Thank goodness, you guys are short enough on modelers as is

Exactly! I can't afford to lose Lauri, however good Digi is You can't have enough Modelers on e team, and even if one wants to compete, that doesn't mean they both should Thanks Lauri!

Now please stop this before it grows into flaming/argument

The Easterling Kataphrakts will not change the armor. Btw, I gave them the scales, not Lauri, so don't "blame" him for that =p Anyways, they're HORSES. A horse weighs like 600kg and can easily carry a lot of weight. They won't be fast, but they'll be strong and powerful =)

[Lauri]

They won't be fast, but they'll be strong and powerful =)

Exactly my point of view on them
I'll admit, my own aren't slower than others, because I like it best when most type of units have the same speed, so there's no disadvantages (fast archer-cavalry could nail slower heavy cavalry )

[Nazgûl]

Hehe great (about the same view there). About the speed... it will only differ a bit. They won't run like snails or anything, hehe. But they will have a hell of a lot of armor as well as high impact/chock when crushing

Edited by Nazgûl, 13 September 2008 - 01:31 PM.

[Grig]

lol I LIKE the heavy armor I was just saying the horse 'll probably be slower than the others

I think its awesome ^^ *hugs picture*

[DIGI_Byte]

seams like im a few posts too late...

@Lauri: when i said ''ugh thing with horse. '' I was merely saying that thing with the horse attached to it... as if i'd EVER know its name im HORRIBLE with names, hell I cant even spell ur name some times.

And when i said the ''most 3D modellers compete with each other'' theres 2 things with that.... 1) is, you compare your works to others and try to improve the work your developing if needed, 2) To learn new techniques to develop more complex and ''Clean'' modeling, its the basic fundamentals of getting better as an artist...

you cant always compare your own work to your own work, theirs no real progress from that, and this applies to ALL artists from 3d modeling to 2d animations

i meant no-offense Lauri, your work is pretty good, I amused those horses you uploaded was from another project from a while ago since you posted them shortly after the initial thread.

Edited by DIGI_Byte, 13 September 2008 - 04:59 PM.

[SovietSoldier]

uh guys,is this the same as the Gondorian knights?when they get heavy armor they get shields too.

[Nazgûl]

Yes, it works the same way. They get more amor for the rider and the shields

[Lauri]

when i said ''ugh thing with horse. '' I was merely saying that thing with the horse attached to it...

Uhm.. the cloth (now scale armor) that hangs over it..?

And when i said the ''most 3D modellers compete with each other'' theres 2 things with that.... 1) is, you compare your works to others and try to improve the work your developing if needed, 2) To learn new techniques to develop more complex and ''Clean'' modeling, its the basic fundamentals of getting better as an artist...

1) Yes, that can be true with me at times, but mostly if it's something I really want that looks cool 2) Well, I don't really model much.. as I said, I put my effort in the skin itself Well, not when it comes to SEE, as Naz always uses his own stuff for that

you cant always compare your own work to your own work, theirs no real progress from that, and this applies to ALL artists from 3d modeling to 2d animations

Well, if you find new ways to do things yourself, you progress... Learning new things from others are faster though, I agree The point was, that I felt you meant we were to compete against each other, and let Naz pick his favorite... Luckily, you didn't mean that

I amused those horses you uploaded was from another project from a while ago since you posted them shortly after the initial thread.

Uhm, didn't quite catch that

[DIGI_Byte]

sorry... typo

it was
I assumed those horses you uploaded was from another project from a while ago, Since you posted them shortly after the initial thread/request.

And i didn't mean the cloth... I meant the whole horse with that cart thingy and that person... That thing, you know?
*DIGI points finger at picture on screen

Edited by DIGI_Byte, 24 October 2008 - 02:10 AM.

[Lauri]

Cart... You mean the Wainriders? Well then.. then I get you

And yes, the horses were indeed from an older project Mostly, I kitbash my own stuff, to increase the process

[SovietSoldier]

i think that one of your top priorities should be this faction,because its a whole faction and Nazgul,you stated that the final model of Kataphracts will be released?

Edited by SovietSoldier, 13 September 2008 - 11:09 PM.

[Nazgûl]

Uhm, now it's my turn to not really follow, lol
Yes they will be released, along with all other EvilMen stuff in Beta 4.7 =)
There are some minor things left to do though, before this unit is finished.

Then there's the Wainriders that needs to be made and added... after that, EvilMen is almost finished except for AI coding

Edited by Nazgûl, 14 September 2008 - 01:46 AM.

[SovietSoldier]

Will the Evil Men Siege Helms Deep and Minas Tirith?how long will it take for the siege to happen?

Edited by SovietSoldier, 14 September 2008 - 01:24 AM.

[Lauri]

because you asked in the wrong topic

Edited by Lauri, 14 September 2008 - 10:06 AM.

[SovietSoldier]

um,I was talking about the Evil Men AI,and Mordor AI

[Lauri]

Then say so to start with, not edit your post afterwards...
As for the question... I don't know how much Naz can do with AI, but I know it's not much, so he says himself

[Grig]

So does just about everybody, the AI's for this game weren't developed very well...

[Nazgûl]

I can code basic AI setup and et the game to use the units without problems. But I can't code sophisticated AI like Sûl did... But this should be enough to get the faction working though. The biggest problem is the Fortress actually, as I can't find anyone to help me get it into game. Rad was supposed to help, but it seems he can't either since SEE is a folder mod and not .big mod?

[Gfire]

I don't think they should have Snagas. They really belong in Rhun as much as Easterlings belong in Mordor. I think if you can come up with a different spam unit you should replace them.