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#41 Nighthawk

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 08:41 AM

Please don't tell me this is going to turn into an argument about what new countries should be in a mod that initially said that there would be no new countries.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 09:00 AM

So ;) The only person that said that there should be no new countries was Carnotaurus ;) This is Speeder's mod, and so it will be up to him whether it will have new countries :evgr: The mod itself should be a complete remake of RA2/YR, not just simply replacing the graphics :p That would be boring

If we want to stretch YR's engine to the limit, then we should add in many countries :evgr: lefthand's loading screens will be very helpful for this ;)
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 10:10 AM

well, as i said before :

COUNT ME IN!! XD!!

ill help with alot of stuff :p
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 12:00 PM

The problem I see with adding a whole load of new countries is that, if you do, you're just going to end up with another clichéd mod that adds loads of pointless countries. Surely the point is remaking the game in terms of fixing its faults.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 12:08 PM

I guess you're right ;) Adding lots and lots of countries is pretty pointless ;) Here's a list of countries that should have been in YR:

Soviets
Russia
Ukraine
North Korea
China
Cuba
and something else...

Allies
America
Great Britain
South Korea
France
Germany
Australia

Yuri (for YR)
Yuri ;) Doesn't really need much change...

Well what about introducing new sides? not countries, but sides.

Then it wouldn't just be a simple remake of RA2/YR then, would it? :p

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 01:31 PM

what about just redoing RA2 ... new universe... but speeder has the final word.. and if this argument about new sides is going on and on... Then it will FAIL..


but my suggestion is.. first remakeing RA2 YR.. and then makeing an "expansion Mod/ Game" .. and in that expansion well ad evrything we wanted from the conecept art and change things???
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 01:49 PM

If you want to be Realisitc:

Allies:

Britain
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Germany
France
Italy


Soviets:

Russia
China
Korea
Iran
Cuba
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 02:09 PM

If you wanted to be technical, Korea wouldn't work at all. RA1 happened before World War II ever started, therefore it happened before the Korean War, so Korea would still be under Japanese rule.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 02:17 PM

Why is there in many mods Ukraine, which never any known special weapon. :p
Maybe some guerilla ("partyzans"), or something. But it looks too general.

Instead of Ukraine there should be something like nowadays "Warsava 4" (bussiness pact between Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia and Hungary ... industrial countries), that created many own military projects (like OT-64 amphibious transport). There are also specials made in Czechoslovakia itself (TAMARA -> VĚRA* radar - stealth tech. is obsolete, ZUZANA="Susan" howitzer, SEMTEX - industrial plastic explosive, SCORPION - something between MICRO-UZZI and the AK-47, etc.).

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* read "VIERRA" with "Czech R" - that letter needs a specific reading.

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 03:29 PM

So :p The only person that said that there should be no new countries was Carnotaurus :p This is Speeder's mod, and so it will be up to him whether it will have new countries ;) The mod itself should be a complete remake of RA2/YR, not just simply replacing the graphics :lol: That would be boring

If we want to stretch YR's engine to the limit, then we should add in many countries :p lefthand's loading screens will be very helpful for this :p


Speeders Idea Joint Mod So thats half correct ;) Also i don't think new country's normal YR ones would be fine. Also all you guys are going way out of line of what speeder actually said as he Said NO NEW COUNTRIES. NO NEW UNITS.

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 04:39 PM

Hogo and nighthawk, im glad I am not the only one who read what Speeder said. :lol:

Just a note for people going 'Ukraine, lol' Ukraine is a part of the Soviet Union. Russia is, as well. Ukraine was not a seperate state from Russia when the Soviet Union existed. W$, once again, needs to gb2/History class.

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 06:40 PM

Well, iwas thinking.. once we have redone RA2 Yuri.. we could make an Expansion pack wich adds new stuff.. ?? so anyone can ahve fun.. like : shal i choose the expanson pack today.. or the neat redone.. hmmz hard..:lol:
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 11:29 PM

If you want to be Realisitc:

Allies:

Britain
USA
Germany
France
Italy


Soviets:

Russia
China
Korea
Iran
Cuba

And just how is that 'Realisitc'? :p RA2 was never realistic anyway :p With mind-control soldiers, tanks that fire pure light, and electricity tanks :) And just how is Iran realistic? :p I listed all the communist countries, why would Iran be on the Soviet side?
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 11:59 PM

Basically, that list has just stuck five random anti-Western, or once anti-Western, countries on the Soviet side. Iran never had anything to do with RA2, neither did Italy. Korea technically doesn't exist in the RA universe, at least not in the same way (see one of my earlier posts). China, although it is communist, still had nothing to do with RA2, and at that time was not communist, it was still ruled by the nationalists.

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 12:02 AM

Well, iwas thinking.. once we have redone RA2 Yuri.. we could make an Expansion pack wich adds new stuff.. ?? so anyone can ahve fun.. like : shal i choose the expanson pack today.. or the neat redone.. hmmz hard..:p

:p Thinking a bit to far along the line here godsun. We have not even seen if we are going to do this speeder hasn't replyed much so we don't know :p

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 01:36 AM

Basically, that list has just stuck five random anti-Western, or once anti-Western, countries on the Soviet side. Iran never had anything to do with RA2, neither did Italy. Korea technically doesn't exist in the RA universe, at least not in the same way (see one of my earlier posts). China, although it is communist, still had nothing to do with RA2, and at that time was not communist, it was still ruled by the nationalists.

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Australia was in YR :p That makes it part of the RA2 universe right?

Also all you guys are going way out of line of what speeder actually said as he Said NO NEW COUNTRIES. NO NEW UNITS.

Speeder never said that there should be no new countries :p Don't twist his words

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 07:33 AM

I am not twisting his words But he said Fist Post about how it should be normal YR. Why are you all obsessive with Country's that have no point in adding. I know your from Australia but why do we need it YR didn't so why do we? :p

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 07:42 AM

Regraphic, rebalance, remod, remake.

There :p Nowhere does it say that it should be normal YR, just that it should be what YR should have been, by re-making it from scratch on the same engine :)

And I'm not being obsessive :p It's quite easy for you people from the US and the UK to try and prevent other countries from being added, you're always added into these sort of games :p

Oh, and whoever said the Ukraine was never a part of the RA2 universe, in RA it was it's own country ;) Might want to note that
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Posted 23 June 2007 - 09:22 AM

NORWAY!

Speeder said to remake RA2 and to make each side more different.
He also said that he wouldn't add a lot of redundant units (i.e. No Howitzers when you have Prism Tanks already)
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Posted 23 June 2007 - 10:32 AM

Now, stop arguing and let's think what TW has YR doesn't. Except the pr0graphic.

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