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Posted 02 July 2008 - 07:51 PM
pitiful, you had to " combo horde " on me, sigh, maybe i should give you some handicap next time
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"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."
"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."
"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 08:33 PM
It's just the Demolishers that level up; dwarven catapults don't. I don't know if other battering rams level up, but it doesn't make since if they do but catapults don't.
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 08:34 PM
ok mike, those are 3 examples of them using horses for messengers so perhaps a scout unit would make more sense, but i just dont see a dale cavalry unit making all that much sense if they are like rivindell caliber.
@ravnin, thats a good point, perhaps we should go through and make it so that either all siege level up or none. because currently we have trolls and mountain giants leveling up but not ents (pretty sure about this). we also apparently have demolishers leveling up but not battering rams; i dont think any catapults/trebuchets level currently but perhaps they should.
i think we could justify somehting like this with the 'crew' getting better at using it so perhaps for rams and such they did more damage or attacked faster as they level but catapults and trebuchets would get more accurate.
@ravnin, thats a good point, perhaps we should go through and make it so that either all siege level up or none. because currently we have trolls and mountain giants leveling up but not ents (pretty sure about this). we also apparently have demolishers leveling up but not battering rams; i dont think any catapults/trebuchets level currently but perhaps they should.
i think we could justify somehting like this with the 'crew' getting better at using it so perhaps for rams and such they did more damage or attacked faster as they level but catapults and trebuchets would get more accurate.
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 08:59 PM
sounds good to me
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."
"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."
"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:32 AM
The Men of Dale did have access to - and used cavalry. When Thorin and friends finally made it to the Lonely Mountain, the Master of Lake-Town sent riders around the Lake to escort ponies and bring supplies to them. Later, mounted messengers were sent to the Elves of Mirkwood to ask for supplies and aid. Finally, it is known that messengers were sent - likely on horseback - to Rivendell for the Council of Elrond, and to the crowning of King Ellesar.
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That's esgaroth, not dale
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:36 AM
It's a part of Dale by the War of the Ring. Remember, Bard became ruler of Dale, I doubt he left his little city behind 
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:37 AM
But those were all examples of esgaroth, not dale.
Not arguing, just pointing it out I still think battlewagon is better for dwarves...
Not arguing, just pointing it out
I still think battlewagon is better for dwarves...
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:40 AM
Why would they suddenly change their customs?
Idiot.
Well then, just say that!
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Idiot.
Well then, just say that!
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:53 AM
Rather free with the insults, are we?
The people in charge of esgaroth stayed there, and a bunch of new people under bard (i think anyway, i get them so confused) went to dale. So, they wouldn't necessarily be the same.
The people in charge of esgaroth stayed there, and a bunch of new people under bard (i think anyway, i get them so confused) went to dale. So, they wouldn't necessarily be the same.
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:58 AM
But Bard was in charge in esgaroth after Smaug.
What now?
What now?
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 03:00 AM
No, the town master still was, bard just went around ordering things in his name But the master was still in charge...
Owned.
But the master was still in charge...Owned.
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 03:01 AM
No, I'm fairly sure the master left after Smaug. I think the people didn't like him or something.......
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 03:03 AM
Don't think so...but maybe
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 04:17 AM
The 'Master of Lake-Town' took the gold given him by Bard and Dain to rebuild said-town-on-the-lake for his own, then fled with it. He died alone in the wilderness.
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 04:19 AM
Wasn't that after 5 armies though?
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 04:26 AM
Maybe, but it doesn't matter. Dale was (re)formed even after that.
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 04:40 AM
After, yes. Which I why I said "Bard and Dain".
As for the Esgaroth-Dale issue..Dale was reformed as an independent kingdom, and Esgaroth was rebuilt further upriver to be closer to it and Erebor.
As for the Esgaroth-Dale issue..Dale was reformed as an independent kingdom, and Esgaroth was rebuilt further upriver to be closer to it and Erebor.
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 04:41 AM
Really? I could have sworn it was a part. Meh.
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 04:42 AM
By that you mean aligned to it? Well, yes, it was...in a manner of speaking. The Men of Esgaroth were of kinship with the Men of Dale, and were subservient to them.
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 04:43 AM
Close enough then.
Point is, Yoda lost
Point is, Yoda lost
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