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#341 Elvenlord

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:32 PM

well thats becouse ants have outter skelet, unlike we humans who have inner skelet

I was just making a comparision. That had nothing to do with the argument. Does it really matter why? Point is, they are.

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#342 Myrdin

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:35 PM

try and tell that to a dwarf, :shiftee: and wheny ou by it, compare his beard to some small black animal with white back that tends to stink pretty much, when you wake up with you head hurting i think you understand whos stronger ( just joking )
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:36 PM

Read the books again, men were stronger :shiftee:

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#344 Myrdin

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:38 PM

newer going to admit ! who cares about that ? every game, every book, every everithing - dwarfs are sturdier, more durable and stronger than NORMAL human - not speaking about some masculiours barbarian ( Conan ? anyone ? :shiftee: ).

Edited by Myrdin, 01 July 2008 - 10:38 PM.

"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."

"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:39 PM

Well this came before all those. And this isn't those.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:42 PM

newer going to admit ! who cares about that ? every game, every book, every everithing - dwarfs are sturdier, more durable and stronger than NORMAL human - not speaking about some masculiours barbarian ( Conan ? anyone ? :shiftee: ).


Yeah! Who cares about the books that started this whole franchise! We don't need them! Lets just make them let every other stereotypical dwarves!

The two men described in detail (aragorn and boromir) were both stronger than gimli. Aragorn had numenorian blood in it, but boromir didn't really.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:43 PM

in the terms of brute strenght i believe even tolkien had to wrote somewhere that dwarfs are stronger than humans.

just look at this - normal dwarf miner, is stronger than just some peasant, . . . why ? becouse just the way dwarfs live requires high strenght.
Im not saying humans are weak, but im saiyng that normal dwarf compared to normal human will be stronger, if the play " pushing the arm "
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."

"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:45 PM

Humans would easily win an arm wrestle, if that's what you mean, because of their better leverage.

And whenever there were humans and dwarves together, humans were stronger.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:46 PM

newer gonna admit it !!! Waaagh
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."

"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:47 PM

We just gave you a two examples of men strength over dwarves.
Sturdier? I'll give you that. Durable? That as well, since Aule created them that way. But in muscle power? Men.
And how easy do you think farm life is? It's back-breaking labor, all day long.

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#351 Myrdin

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:52 PM

compared to mining, moving rocks that weight 2x as you do, and pushing fully loaded cart, its not that bad.
and yeh i know how hard is farm life, had bit of taste of that as well . . . . newer again !
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."

"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:54 PM

as i understand from WERY old posts ( dont even recall how many sites back in this topic ) battlewagons will propably get removed ( HURAAAY !!! ).


Is this seriously happening? Because every other faction has cavalry; it's just like having archer units or spears. And to make it so the Dwarves don't have it would be pretty unbalanced.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:55 PM

Ok. How about moving bales of hay that weight 2x as much as you, pushing fully loaded carts of said hay. Though they probably used horses for that :shiftee:
Point is, we have two straight from the books examples of how men are stronger then dwarves. And since this is a LOTR mod, we kind of have to go by that :xd:

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:57 PM

buuheeee, poor little beardy dudes, i wasnt able to protect your honour :shiftee: :xd: :xd:
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."

"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:58 PM

as i understand from WERY old posts ( dont even recall how many sites back in this topic ) battlewagons will propably get removed ( HURAAAY !!! ).


Is this seriously happening? Because every other faction has cavalry; it's just like having archer units or spears. And to make it so the Dwarves don't have it would be pretty unbalanced.


Don't think so, no.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 11:00 PM

who thinks dwarf should not have any cawalery/mounted unit ? . . . Uhh uhh,Me !, Me !
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."

"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 11:02 PM

Who's for completely unbalancing the game! You! You!

Cav is so much better now than .05, and it would really be completely unfair for a faction to not have any.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 11:06 PM

just give the guardians trample :shiftee: though they have the bulwark abylity which does the same
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."

"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 11:06 PM

You know, unless you've already done this and I'm way behind the times, would a Dale based cav for the dwarves be too far-fetched?

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 11:08 PM

a weak early mid game cawalery consisted of dale folk, but with good trample - ayi, i like it, still better then the stupid battlewagon.
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."

"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"
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