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#221 King Patrin

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 08:26 PM

Yes but the point is the Dunedein had grey cloaks the Ithilen rangers had green cloaks

yes i know, but in the sun there cloaks look white, maybe a bit more dark is better??

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 08:33 PM

hmm shouldnt they get brown cloacks ?

hmm or better not, i think Mirkwood units already got brown coloured clothes
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Posted 31 March 2008 - 08:01 PM

So Your Saying Just because Mirkwood has brown clothes the dunidane cant have them....thats pretty ......gay :mellow:
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Posted 31 March 2008 - 08:05 PM

no, its' not gay...
it's just silly....


Anyways, Dunedain for grey cloaks = The Grey Company :mellow:

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 08:10 PM

Yeah, thats how they currently are.

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 08:32 PM

well i was just thinking, you know, coz the camuflauge ( sp? ) thing, when your in woods, brown would be good idea ( of course they cant have the cloaks 3dif. coloured, like soldiers cloths in real world, would be weird in that age ). thats all, i newer thought about grey company, soo pls dont henge me for the lack of knowladge :mellow:
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 03:53 AM

I Know were talking about dunidane but since i love hobbits sooo much i was wondering if u\they were going 2 make them an inn faction or not..lol(with a hobbit cavalry unit :thumbsupsmiley: )
and if that idea of arnor having an pike unit that wasn't a hobbit....and sry i didn't mean gay..it mean silly :)
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Posted 01 April 2008 - 09:21 PM

what do i hear ?!

another inn faction ?

no problem !!! for Gundabad is finished, if you wish i may create a list of Hobbit faction ( but i warn you beforehead, itll be a bit outrageous and originall, becouse hobbits dont step out in middlearth as big warriors, soo i have enough freedom, to create some interesting units )

all you need to do, is just let me know, and ill be done in one, max two days ( with detail description same, as i did by Gundabad )
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"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 12:12 AM

Regarding the Grey Cloaks...

I know that the Dunedain migrated from Arnor and some stayed nearby. So if the programmers wanted to give the Dunedain rangers grey cloaks, it could make sense because there were some mountain ranges nearby and having a grey cloak could disguise them better in the mountains. Of course this would be roughly translating the Dunedain into something that would work for this idea (*this is what politicians do!*). I don't necessarily agree with this because a green or brown cloak basically covers most areas in Middle-Earth.

I would rather not have another Inn Faction because it risks making the Inn system look like "These are the factions that weren't good enough to get in, but here they are in one clump." <That may not have made sense but I hope that you get the gist of what I'm trying to say. Although this would be a good way to get the 4 hobbits in a faction that suits them, I would rather have the heroes stay in the factions that RJ has already got them in.
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 12:26 AM

I gotta go w/scryer on this one...
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 05:28 AM

Yes i agree, but why would arnor trust the hobbits two be their pikemen, i would like too see a arnor pikemen unit but still keep hobbits in the game, thats why i thought hobbits as an inn faction would make sense, and i agree that the 4 hobbit heroes should stay in there current faction :p
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:40 PM

theres no problem for me to think of new hobbit heroes, for example, remember the inn master, when they first met aragorn :p that would be good hero
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"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 05:38 PM

eh.. about the rangers, i think they had just dark cloaks, not necessarily gray.. maybe black or green, but more dark than they are now!

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 05:43 PM

i found this on wikipedia:
The Rangers were grim in life, appearance, and dress. They wore rusty green and brown. The Rangers of the Grey Company wore dark grey cloaks and openly used a silver brooch shaped like a pointed star during the War of the Ring. These Rangers rode rough-haired, sturdy horses and carried spears.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 05:49 PM

Well, there we go people, that clears that up. We have everything there, except spear-carrying rangers.

A lot of you have mentioned about arnor needing a pikeman unit except the hobbit pikes. We have done some moving around of arnor's elven units, the elven barracks is being made into more of a collection of mithlond units now. One of these will be the new mithlond sentries, which are toggle spear and sword, making them really versatile. (Picture 1, 2,3)

So arnor will have the hobbits as really early game pikes (the earliest game of any faction), mithlond sentries as versitile mid/late game infantry, and the haven's spearmen as late game.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:11 PM

Yes i agree, but why would arnor trust the hobbits two be their pikemen, i would like too see a arnor pikemen unit but still keep hobbits in the game, thats why i thought hobbits as an inn faction would make sense, and i agree that the 4 hobbit heroes should stay in there current faction :rolleyes:


I would trust hobbits especially since Frodo and Sam went into Mordor with the ring, to me, that takes a lot of bravery.
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:22 PM

just make hobbits cheap, and spamable like in Rotwk ( 50 credit for one batalion ) and the hobbit house of price 150.

soo there wont be need of any arnor pikeman, since you can get 3 hordes + cottage for 300 ( which is cost of one basic uruk warior batalion, Without the cost of uruk pit )
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"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
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"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:31 PM

and the build time would be longer because your building three
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#239 Myrdin

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:45 PM

no not really, if they would build like dwarfes. who are able to produce 4 batalions while you got just one and second is fast done ( wery hard to repel fagg guardian phalanxes rush ) - in normal rotwk, but i didnt see that its changed here sooo its the same
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"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 10:26 PM

Hobbits don't fight, ok? And Havens spears need to be moved to the Elves. That or Mithlond sentries. Arnorians and Gondorians were renown spearmen (as were the Elves).
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