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#381 Pipo

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 10:41 PM

I think that this idea can be reused, a ballista on an animal's back.
For Evil men, I think that the animal which characterize the best this faction is a scorpion.
By viewing the robnkarla avatar, he well-controls this animal !
But big scorpion isn't very frenquent... even in Harad...
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 11:47 PM

i dont think harad would need a ballista since they have two types of siege already (mumakil and oliphaunts), but i would say it could work rather well on the back of an oliphaunt; so not as large as a mumakil. although they do lack a ranged siege...

this mobile, deployable ballista could work; i like it.

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Posted 24 May 2008 - 04:08 AM

I am definitely going to have to go with Myrdin on this one because it is a brillliant idea for the MOTE.
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Posted 24 May 2008 - 07:52 AM

well, thx :D didnt expect that even one person likes it.

i want it to be corsairs, for as dalf said, harad already has pretty good siege ( though we know they need a buff ), and the corsairs are acsasable by both factions.
soo thats why i choosed it to be corsair - and, i was refering to the smaller (3x bigger than x bows :thumbsupsmiley: ) balista they had on theyir boat, which was easier to move ( when they armed it on the boat for example )

as for modeling it out - i think it could be managable, as we got really skilled peaople here, and there are few models where more units work as one ( for example, angmar catapult, or any other siege ).
If shikary would like to take it (modeling/skinning them), i d like to discuss it on MSN, but the problem is - i reinstalled W. and need to get msn a new ( not really a problem ), soo i lost even the unit speeches i created for Harad and Rhun - but i will work on it and type it again and send it to you as soon as possible - got them written on paper too, soo no really a problem.
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Posted 24 May 2008 - 10:22 AM

soo i lost even the unit speeches i created for Harad and Rhun - but i will work on it and type it again and send it to you as soon as possible - got them written on paper too, soo no really a problem.

Lol, I didn't know. That was actually exactly what I had proposed to Rob, the voices for Harad and Rhún. But if you really wanna do it, I'll let you do it. :D
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#386 Myrdin

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Posted 24 May 2008 - 01:03 PM

i had, ( basically got, but now not in PC ) finished like 3-4 units for harad, and was thinking stuff for Rhun.

lucky i got it down on paper, shouldnt be problem to upload it, just need to get some time coz theres a LOT of exams in ma school right now
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"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 03:45 PM

i dont think harad would need a ballista since they have two types of siege already (mumakil and oliphaunts), but i would say it could work rather well on the back of an oliphaunt; so not as large as a mumakil. although they do lack a ranged siege...

this mobile, deployable ballista could work; i like it.

Aren't Mumakil and Oliphants the same thing?
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Posted 27 May 2008 - 03:46 PM

Not in this mod, no.. IIRC, Oliphants do not have a howdah and are scaled smaller.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 04:07 PM

Is it not Oliphaunts, rather than Oliphants?

Edited by Fyro11, 27 May 2008 - 04:07 PM.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 04:28 PM

I dunno...I've always used Mumakil ^_^

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 04:33 PM

I dunno...I've always used Mumakil ^_^

Your post is going down in history. You slipped...on Tolkien lore.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 04:37 PM

By forgetting a 'u'....? ^_^
EDIT: Well, I've been studying heavily into the Elves and Men of Gondor lately, not the Southrons of both Near and Far Harad, and Umbar. So you have to cut me some slack :p

Edited by elfhelm.., 27 May 2008 - 04:38 PM.


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Posted 27 May 2008 - 10:24 PM

oliphaunts are being made into a battallion (of 3 i think) so that they differ more from the mumakil (right now they are useless for the most part). in this way i think they will be more anti-unit siege if that makes any sense; sort of like mountain trolls (not attack trolls). as always; someone correct me if im wrong.

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Posted 28 May 2008 - 05:43 AM

no ! dont correct him !!! i like that idea soo much that i dont want someone to correct him :p

finally you ll be able to make a " real " " elephant exhibit " ( some walling, gate, and many many oliphaunts in it) ^_^
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

#395 Myrdin

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 03:02 PM

well budies and m8
some time ago, i took the chance, to create new speeches for MotE.
right now, i was able ( as few remember, had to start again, - reainstalled windows = empty PC ), to get the speeches in again, and send them already to our skilled skinner - shikary :)

as for a little taste of is done, the unit and few speeeches :
MotE builder : "I build for East" " Through the Sands " " Im listening "
Haradrim Wariors : " Back to Desert " " Chieftan calls " " Your comand ? "
Haradrim Guards :
( also name the - Hardrim Guardians of Black serpent ) : " Serpent Guide us " " Protect the Citadel " " Serpent Comands "
Haradrim Archers : " The fangs of serpent come to your biding " " Sky will rain Arrows/Death " " We shall shot from there "
and lastly mhh Black Serpent Guard : " We are one with desert " " Not even dust will remain " " Hung begins ! "

next ill be doing the Rhun speeches, more concentrated around sauron, after that the Corsairs brigands ll be next, and lastly the Sorcerrers
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

#396 mike_

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 06:40 PM

I'll pay someone to have one of the Haradrim Archer speech lines be, "Our arrows will block out the sun" :)

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 08:36 PM

no problem, i can change that for one of thoose speeches.

i just wanted to awoid cliches, but yeh this line of 300 is one of my faw. too.

soo shikary, hmm if you read this - delete the ones i sended you today, ill make some little correction ( maybe get some better ones ).

as for the date of Rhun units, i hope to finish them till the end of the next week ( still got school, if not, would be propably sooner )
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 09:59 PM

I'm not going to lie, I think that those are really cool lines that you came up with Myrdin. So in order to get them implemented (if the team decides to do so), would you be hiring a voice actor or would you use an audio program? Sorry, but I'm just a little curious as to how new voices would be installed....
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 11:30 PM

He's already created them as audio files...making up lines to say isn't that hard :)

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 11:55 PM

as for the " our arrows will darker the sun "

im making small change.
This line goes to the Haradrim Archers, and ( as for Rhun units are my next target ), the line " The sky will rain death " goes to the only Rhun ranged they have - theyre basic archers.

for the mellee, im planing on using some line that quote things like " Sauron will rule ! " or " We are the hounds of darkness " and soo on - as far i know ( correct me pls, if im wrong, soo i can change the lines if needed ) sauron had bigger influence in Rhun than Harad ( though it was nicely influenced too ) . . . ?

though the corsairs are coming after the Rhun, i already have some nice stuff ( though it may be changed ), for the new brigand unit

Corsair Brigands : " Silent blade cuts am best " , " Tell me when that hurts . . . hahaha too late " " Eye for eye and stab for you " "Backstab them ! " and few when attackthe building, retreat and fear speeches : " Chop and slash, hit and dash " " pull back to the shadows " " Im a bad boy, but ooo that ones EVIL ! "
when you imagine it with the funny corsair voices, its not that bad :)
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"




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