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[Nazgûl]

^ Sounds might interesting... Way to go!

[Argolis]

now thats something i look forward to seeing (id love to get my royal guards mounted, i never liked having two have two seperate units, one on foot, one on horse).

nice find!! (provided theres not some horrible compromise involved, lol)

[Athem]

Now, i need find a way to fix respawn and banner carrier.

[Sûlherokhh]

I can't help you until i know what exactly you changed so that it now causes the problem. So please tell us!

[Athem]

Robnkarla is helping too.
Only one problem is left:
If the horde has 6 member (mounted and unmounted) and if some of them are death and i give them mount they're are again 6.

[Sûlherokhh]

I imagine you would have the same problem with their health, right?

[Athem]

I think no... I've added to KindOf : HERO and that had helped...
But that respawn sucks.

[Sûlherokhh]

So they have a respawnbody module?

[Athem]

So they have a respawnbody module?

No active body...
I have mean that when you mount or dismount all members that are dead respawn...

[Sûlherokhh]

Heroes with respawn bodies automatically appear in the revive menu. I don't think we can change that.

Have you tried adding MOUNTED to the list of flags in the horde where it says:

DependencySharedModelFlags = EMOTION_ALERT EMOTION_MORALE_HIGH EMOTION_MORALE_LOW EMOTION_AFRAID EMOTION_COWER EMOTION_TERROR EMOTION_LOOK_TO_SKY SELECTED

Edited by Sûlherokhh, 05 August 2007 - 10:48 AM.

[Athem]

Heroes with respawn bodies automatically appear in the revive menu. I don't think we can change that.

Have you tried adding MOUNTED to the list of flags in the horde where it says:

DependencySharedModelFlags = EMOTION_ALERT EMOTION_MORALE_HIGH EMOTION_MORALE_LOW EMOTION_AFRAID EMOTION_COWER EMOTION_TERROR EMOTION_LOOK_TO_SKY SELECTED

Hmm... No... What should it make?
Go make it...

[Argolis]

So they have a respawnbody module?

youve got him wrong on that i think sul. This is teh very same nasty compromise i was thinking of above.

I think what hes got going (correct me if im wrong) is an object switcher, much like a fellbeast mount or a thrall master summon. When he says the dead men respawn he means this:

foot horde has 6 men, 3 are killed, and the remaining 3 wounded. He orders them to mount, and the horse horde will then have 6 men, all at 100% health. A fellbeast can carry its health and other numbers across when mounted because its the felbeast itself thats changing object, whereas in this case its a horde object thats changing, which means all the units inside the horde are recreated.

I think thats what he means anyways.

[robnkarla]

Yeah, that is about as far as I have ever been able to take it using replaceobjects and mountedtemplates. I've had some other ideas about modelcondition states and such, but never tried them.

[Athem]

So they have a respawnbody module?

youve got him wrong on that i think sul. This is teh very same nasty compromise i was thinking of above.

I think what hes got going (correct me if im wrong) is an object switcher, much like a fellbeast mount or a thrall master summon. When he says the dead men respawn he means this:

foot horde has 6 men, 3 are killed, and the remaining 3 wounded. He orders them to mount, and the horse horde will then have 6 men, all at 100% health. A fellbeast can carry its health and other numbers across when mounted because its the felbeast itself thats changing object, whereas in this case its a horde object thats changing, which means all the units inside the horde are recreated.

I think thats what he means anyways.

Yeah... That is that what I mean.
It looks like it is impossible to fix it.

[Sûlherokhh]

If we can get the original HordeMember-object to mount, without using an object change (necessitating a different horde), this might work.

What we could REALLY use would be a module, that, like the rangefinder, transfers the modelcondition of the horde to the members.

We know the following do transfer 'other' stuff to members:

Upgrades need some module inside the horde that uses the upgrade for a trigger. Otherwise it will not transfer to the member.
[codebox] Behavior = StatusBitsUpgrade ModuleTag_ShowTopperGlow ;// I need to react to the upgrade, so I can have it for when new construction asks me for all the upgrades
TriggeredBy = Upgrade_ObjectLevel5
End
[/codebox]

Weapons need to use the same weaponslot (PRIMARY, SECONDARY) and use this in the horde rangefinder weapon.
[codebox] HordeAttackNugget
End
[/codebox]

Weapontoggle flags seem to get transferred directly, albeit with a slight delay. Other flags seem to use this in the draw module:
[codebox] DependencySharedModelFlags = EMOTION_ALERT EMOTION_MORALE_HIGH EMOTION_MORALE_LOW EMOTION_AFRAID EMOTION_COWER EMOTION_TERROR EMOTION_LOOK_TO_SKY SELECTED
[/codebox]


... How to achieve this?


So, i would suggest to use a specialpower button for mounting on the horse. Like this:

[codebox]SpecialPower SpecialAbilityHordeMount
Enum = SPECIAL_GENERAL_TARGETLESS
ReloadTime = 10000
End
[/codebox]

A few horde modules:
[codebox] Behavior = SpecialPowerModule ModuleTag_HordeMountStarter
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityHordeMount
UpdateModuleStartsAttack = Yes
StartsPaused = No
End

Behavior = ModelConditionSpecialAbilityUpdate ModuleTag_HordeMountUpdate
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityHordeMount
UnpackTime = 2000
PreparationTime = 1
PersistentPrepTime = 250
PackTime = 2000
AwardXPForTriggering = 0
End
[/codebox]



The member will need the usual mounting modules:
[codebox] Behavior = SpecialPowerModule ModuleTag_HorseToggleStarter
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityToggleMounted
UpdateModuleStartsAttack = Yes
StartsPaused = Yes
End
Behavior = ToggleMountedSpecialAbilityUpdate ModuleTag_HorseToggle
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityToggleMounted
UnpackTime = 2000
PreparationTime = 1
PersistentPrepTime = 250
PackTime = 2000
OpacityTarget = .3 ; How see-thru to be at peak of change
AwardXPForTriggering = 0
End
[/codebox]

And the member will need a new Lua function line in it's existing function list inside 'scriptevents.xml':
[codebox]...
<EventHandler EventName="UsingSpecialOne" ScriptFunctionName="HordeMemberTriggerMount" DebugSingleStep="false"/>
...
[/codebox]

and in 'scipts.lua'

[codebox]function HordeMemberTriggerMount(self)
ObjectDoSpecialPower(self, "SpecialAbilityToggleMounted")
end
[/codebox]


Don't know if it works, but i don't have the drive to try it out right now. But you give it a try.

[Athem]

A stupid question but how can I play animation in RenX?

[Allathar]

By clicking the 'animate' button

[Athem]

By clicking the 'animate' button

And that is where? Yeap... i'm dumb...

[The Best Guest]

if you are using renx at the bottomm in green it's really big

[Athem]

I have firs time make a moddels ( )!!
I have remake that Khazad Guard from TDP
and make other new one model (Dark dunedain cavalry )

BUT I became an bug and don't know how to fix it.