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#121 Devon

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Posted 19 September 2008 - 08:54 PM

That is true...:)....you could make them a lot cheaper, but have no respawn at all.

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#122 Mordor Slayer

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Posted 19 September 2008 - 10:16 PM

I still like zach's idea best: some weak heroes already start at lvl 10 at their respective building, that combined with the fact that the stronger heroes start with all their powers, but at lvl. 1 (aka powers are very weak but gain strenght each lvl).
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Posted 19 September 2008 - 11:50 PM

I'm sure something good with come of all this :)

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Posted 25 September 2008 - 08:18 PM

Well, if you did make them unable to respawn (which I doubt, and hope not,) you could make Gandalf available to come back once as white, being gray before.
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Posted 25 September 2008 - 08:26 PM

No respawn won't happen.
Nerfing and adjusting will though...

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Posted 25 September 2008 - 09:29 PM

i'd like to see some changes made to the Witch King - first of all, i think his mace swing should hit more people than 2 - maybe you could lengthen his mace model so it'd hit more people - his mace was far, FAR bigger in the films - i saw this interview thing on youtube where the guy who played the Witch King in the movie was complaining about having to hold it all the time because of how heavy and huge it was - so it'd make more sense to have it be closer to the film version - so when he slams the mace directly down in front of him it should hit quite a few people - like when a troll throws a rock and it lands in the middle of a crowd

also it would be cool to add some different animations for his attacks, perhaps one of him doing some combination with his sword + mace which hits multiple people

also when he uses his flaming sword shockwave attack, it would be cool to take the sound effect for it straight from the movie - the sound of his sword powering up - that'd be awesome

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 12:29 AM

Im liking Zachs idea for heroes as well. Certain key heroes could be at the fortress and require a level up, while other less important ones could be at other buildings and already be level 10. Its also makes room for other heroes from the film to be snuck in, like Gorbag and such. I on the otherhand really find leveling up all the heroes better, even if the lesser ones get reset if they die. That to me brings more importance on protecting those heroes, trouble is finding powers or abilities to want a player to keep them alive.

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 08:23 PM

I'm back in hero discussion.

Something just came to my mind. What if you put a script to the fortress which gives the heroes exp in an interval. Like the healing power of a fortress for example. Of course only in a fixed radius.

That would couse the heroes you need for seige to gain exp an stay useful in later game without interfering the game in a too hard way.

What do you think?

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 10:03 PM

Wery interesting idea indeed! Sorta like the Libraries we planned along ago =)
I would need a Script coder for that though..

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 07:04 AM

also - about the witch king - i think the witch-king should, when injured, deal some damage back to the damager

in the book, both Merry *and* Eowyn get heavily injured - close to death - just from touching the witch king. Using that, you can easily surmise that anybody that attacks in melee range should suffer similarily.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 09:33 AM

Howzit, Yeah i don;t know if i should put the pony dwrf thing in here Naz. Ok, the heroes that i believe should be added.
Dwarves-Beorn/Grimbeorn(Assisted the dwarves in the battle of five armies),Radagast(shouldn't be very strong but is neccesary i believe),Thorin Stonehelm(with a sword),Durin the Last(who reestablished the Moria Colony and could ride a pony) or Dwalin/Balin.
Men-Eldarion son of Aragorn( A must if heroes like Brand and Thorin are in),Prince Imrahil.
Elves-Sons of Elrond Elrohir and Elladan(Who feature somewhat in the lore of middle-earth).

I know some these have been mentioned i just want to group my thoughts cohesively.
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Posted 28 September 2008 - 11:10 AM

Sure =)

- Grimbeorn: I would add him if someone made anims for the Bear model to support attacking!
- Radagast: I might add him since Ed3d (my newst modeler on the team) made such a model recently!
- Thorin: Already added, with sword!
- Durin: No plans, no need!
- Dwalin: Being added...

- Eldarion: No plans. But if we separate Rohan from Gondor in the future, sure!
- Prince Imrahil: Same here ^!

- Elrohir & Elladan: Don't think so. Elven faction is so crowded already, and they're not seen in the movies.

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#133 Anarion son of Eldarion

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 11:21 AM

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 06:44 PM

Sure =)

- Grimbeorn: I would add him if someone made anims for the Bear model to support attacking!
- Radagast: I might add him since Ed3d (my newst modeler on the team) made such a model recently!
- Thorin: Already added, with sword!
- Durin: No plans, no need!
- Dwalin: Being added...

- Eldarion: No plans. But if we separate Rohan from Gondor in the future, sure!
- Prince Imrahil: Same here ^!

- Elrohir & Elladan: Don't think so. Elven faction is so crowded already, and they're not seen in the movies.

A few things. First, why Dwalin and not Balin? Also, Elrohir and Elladan could come ad a summon with the dunedain (Along with Halbarad, possibly) as that's what happened in the book. However, with permanent Dunedain summon, you'd have to make it so they only come the first time you use it.
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Posted 28 September 2008 - 07:59 PM

I'll take that as Gondor and Rohan never will separate?

I mean, c'mon :rolleyes: Eldarion's not even born at the end of the war of the ring!

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 08:14 PM

- Maybe in the future
- No more Elven heroes, no =P

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 10:43 PM

There are plenty of Rohan heroes that are possible that lived during the war of the ring. Gamling, Hama, Elfhelm and Theodred, along with Theoden, Eomer and Eowyn (And possibly Merry) come to mind. I don't think that will be a problem.
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Posted 28 September 2008 - 11:18 PM

Naw Merry should stay where he is

Its just not the same to have Treebeard without his little shirelings :rolleyes:

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:59 AM

And if Treebeard went with Merry and Pippin to MotW?

And I have suggested this before, but I'm just trying to get more people to back me on this one.

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 02:55 PM

I don't mind Rohan and Gondor splitting..
I mind Gondor getting a hero, that's not even born when the war of the ring is over :good:

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