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[av8r]

Wow, unreal!! Well done! I wonder if there's any ea modelers who are hearing "You're fired" about now" LOL

[njm1983]

yeah Id be willing to give it a shot, although most of the problems I see are with the models, the hornburg isnt tall enough, the causway is thinner and longer, not to mention raised up. The list goes on and on, let me know what you would like to see done and Ill try to meet it.

heres a render of helms deep:


heres a map of dol amroth

heres a map of orthanc

heres a map of osgiliath

heres a map of palargir

heres a map of laketown

[Allathar]

Bravo!

[Mercyy]

great:)

[The Best Guest]

If you need any help with these I can help.

[njm1983]

yeah I could use the help. take your pick. Isengard, I have a number of plans for though so thats mine, as well as helms deep. once Naz gives me some Ideas as to what he would like fixed/reworked.

[The Best Guest]

I'll take laketown if that's alright

[njm1983]

sounds good, Ill be looking forward to seeing what you can do.

[Nazgûl]

But MT isn't 100% finished yet, right? As far as I can see there's some work left on one half of the Pelennor fields?

After MT you're basically free to do whatever you feel like but I find the Isengard map pretty ok as it is. Off course, it could be bigger with a hefty scaled Orthanc model, but I wouldn't call that map as a map of any dire need of rework atm One that is terrible though is the Helm's Deep map. I hate the low walls and the "runway" to the gate that is like 4 times wider and 6 times lower than it is in the movie. That render looks very accurate? Where diid you find it? =)

After HD I'd say Osgilliath, to match the awesome MT. All these maps are definitely highly wanted for the future campaign. The goal of the campaign is naturally to "live the movies" and thus the MT map will make a GRAND finale for the Campaign, right before Black Gate and Mount Doom =)

[njm1983]

well saturday I should be able to wrap up MT, texturing is rather tedious and time consuming and doesnt keep my attention long but its still friday in California hehe, I was planning to rescale Isengard, and was thinking of making it look undefiled inside. and to get the defiled look, was thinking if it was possible to use the ground upgrade that isengard has for its fortress and make it available from the tower of orthanc. thought it would make it more movie like if the player could destroy the park within its walls.

Ive been playing around with the HD map and its gonna be very difficult. I may only be able to get the floor plan more accurate, but I cant make the walls taller. I thought about using the walls for the inner keep for the outer walls but they are wedge shaped and designed to go against a cliff. at best I might be able to just elevate the hornburg entirely to get a better ramp and more destinction between the deeping wall and it.

The render I found on google searching for images of Helms deep.

[elbenmensch]

awesome

[Igneox]

just how long did you spend working on that???the most time i spent on one map is 4 hours...im betting you spent way longer haha time well spent.good work!!

[njm1983]

it is done. Sorta.
http://rapidshare.co...tirith.ace.html

In WB there are 2 tree icons for building things on the walls, one has the tower, and treb, the other has postern gate, tower, and treb, would it be easier if I place those icons and Sul edits them to the appropriate trebuchets?

Ive fiddled around with the HD map and I honestly think it cant be fixed without remodelling the walls. Im sorry but it is beyond my skill to heal.

Edited by njm1983, 09 December 2007 - 04:45 AM.

[njm1983]

well i havent really been keeping track, but around 30 hours im thinking. the map is finished, and we have a number of neat little things we are working on for the trebuchets that defend the city, but all principle editing is complete.

Edited by njm1983, 09 December 2007 - 04:29 AM.

[DragonLord]

So, when will we get this? Beta V?

[Nazgûl]

No sweat. We might find some modeler that would like to remodel that map later on

[Nazgûl]

Probably...

Atm, this is purely LOOKS... We need to adjust geometry for just about all objects in this map, and that's a project in itself that might take even longer than the actual rework of the map itself ^ To put it in plain english, stuff LOOK bigger but they are not in terms of "geometry" which means that units will wade half into structures and catapults will not hit where we think they should...

[njm1983]

well the actual number of items that need model geometry work is probably around 15, the 8 buildings used throughout the city, the 2 mountain wedge pieces and the top pieces of the city the gate and the gatehouse and the gate towers to the left and right of the main gate.

I have questions about the model geometry things.

first why do some object work fine when scaled up? IE the walls?

second if the geometry is adjusted upwards on an object does it effect that object if it was used smaller? cause the main gate house is used at normal scale for the other gates.

[Nazgûl]

I'm not sure... I had BIG probs when I scaled Mumaks, Ents and Grond... I spent like weeks on Grond alone, guessing numbers for the Geometry in it's INI until it acted precicely as (close to) what I wanted in game (crushing and receiving damage). I have no idea what method should be used, but I just used trial and error... :/ The REALLY weird thing is that on the map I was using to test Grond it became as good as perfect, but on OTHER maps, the geometry didn't act quite as good. So... maybe some maps affect geometry of things... I dunno :(

Anyway, Rob said he'd give it a try (MT)... so let's wish him luck

[njm1983]

wow that is perplexing. fingers are crossed.