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[ReallyFat]

btw, arathorn, what happened to your account?

Anyway, Yaro, if you read my Elizabethan english note, you would see that i found out how to move it. my problem is ROTATION

[逊Arathorn妻]

I was too lazy to sign in

[Gwanw]

'And amidst his confusion and despair, in plain hopelessness, he sought for extra ponames. And then did he find the relative object, and did smack himself on the forehead. And the modders would say unto him, "Thou fool, thou art truly one impatient, and seeketh not answer, but beg others for one." Then did he rush to to Revora, and did post that he had found what he sought. the relative object was indeed existent, and the SideCommandBar moved, but the wretch could not work out, not though he tried with all his mind, on how the SideCommandBar was to be rotated horizontally. In utter confusion did he ask for help on whether it had anything to do with the rotational matrices, and if it did, how he could rotate that vertical object a full ninety degrees clockwise.'

-The Chronicles of APT, Chapter 7: ReallyFat, lord of the Legendarium

This post contains the answer.
rotm00, -01, -10 and -11 define a rotation matrix, so you can rotate every placeobject.

/ 1 0 \ / 1 -0,707 \
\ 0 1 / \ 0,707 1 /

Thats a rotation of 45° -> rotm00="1.000000" rotm01="-0.707107" rotm10="0.707107" rotm11="1.000000"

So you can every object rotate, strech, skew, etc.

And the upload of my tools is always ok^^.




I upload the Editor again^^:
http://www.the3rdage...m-708?visible=1

Edited by Gwanw, 25 March 2012 - 04:46 PM.

[ReallyFat]

THANKS! i'll try it now. you know, gwanw, perhaps if i get this right, we two can write an article on APT editing together.

[Gwanw]

Sounds nice^^

[ReallyFat]

Well, my sister taught me a bit about matrices, and i figured out how to rotate. but the game is still crashing. i'll make a video and post it here, then we can set our minds to it. once i'm done, i might add the new layout up as a download. on the articles thing, i thought it would be a good idea, because there are no articles on APT. i have a one week holiday coming up day after tomorrow, so let's write it then. ok?

[Gwanw]

<placeobject flags="166" depth="13" character="2" rotm00="0.707107" rotm01="0.707107" rotm10="-0.707107" rotm11="0.707107" tx="917.299988" ty="711.849976" red="255" green="255" blue="255" alpha="255" ratio="0.000000" clipdepth="-1" unknown="0">
                    <poname name="QuitMainMenu" />
                    <clipactions>
                    <clipaction flags="1" flags2="0">
                        <string action="161" str="buttonName" />
                        <string action="166" str="$Quit" />
                        <noarg action="0" />
                </clipaction>
                    </clipactions>
                </placeobject>

So the rotation shouldn't be the problem (if you use the same concept).
Ok, than thursday^^.

[ReallyFat]

OK
anyway, i did rotate it, but i get a crash. i'll make a video and post it here later

[ReallyFat]

SCHOOL IS OVER FOR A WEEEEEK!

So, let's write the article, eh?

[Gwanw]

k, and which chat should we use??^^ (skype, msn, etc....)

[ReallyFat]

Revora PM is fine, I'd say.

[Elric]

For the Skyrim main menu. Is it possible to put it over to the left more. so that it is coming out the side of the screen? and what are the main files for just the menu (NO BACKGROUND). Also how do you install it exactly?

Edited by Dragon Rider, 03 April 2012 - 01:54 AM.

[Gwanw]

Yes, its possible, you must only edit the positions of buttons and the grey part (its a image).
The important files are the apt files (.apt, .const, .dat, .ru) and their textures.
You must replace the old asset.dat by the new asset.dat (bfmeII-folder) and the skyrimmenu.big appertains to the rotwk folder. Now you should see the skyrimmenu.

[Elric]

See i am trying to get this:

Skyrim menu to the side more (Have no idea how to edit it) and then put it in a mod... (From Book to Game) thought it would be a cooler menu..

[Gwanw]

The editing is very simple^^:
You need this converter:
http://www.the3rdage...tem-708?addview
Than you search in the mainmenu.xml (created by the converter) for this parts:

           	 <placeobject flags="38" depth="4" character="96" rotm00="1.000000" rotm01="0.000000" rotm10="0.000000" rotm11="1.000000" tx="100.000000" ty="-2.000000" red="255" green="255" blue="255" alpha="255" ratio="0.000000" clipdepth="-1" unknown="0">
                    <poname name="TutorialsNav" />
                </placeobject>
                <placeobject flags="166" depth="13" character="2" rotm00="1.000000" rotm01="0.000000" rotm10="0.000000" rotm11="1.000000" tx="199.000000" ty="350.000000" red="255" green="255" blue="255" alpha="255" ratio="0.000000" clipdepth="-1" unknown="0">
                    <poname name="QuitMainMenu" />
                    <clipactions>
                    <clipaction flags="1" flags2="0">
                        <string action="161" str="buttonName" />
                        <string action="166" str="$Quit" />
                        <noarg action="0" />
                </clipaction>
                    </clipactions>
                </placeobject>
                <placeobject flags="166" depth="25" character="2" rotm00="1.000000" rotm01="0.000000" rotm10="0.000000" rotm11="0.999054" tx="199.000000" ty="300.000000" red="255" green="255" blue="255" alpha="255" ratio="0.000000" clipdepth="-1" unknown="0">
                    <poname name="MyHeroes" />
                    <clipactions>
                    <clipaction flags="1" flags2="0">
                        <string action="161" str="buttonName" />
                        <string action="166" str="$MyHeroes" />
                        <noarg action="0" />
                </clipaction>
                    </clipactions>
                </placeobject>
                <placeobject flags="38" depth="37" character="17" rotm00="1.000870" rotm01="0.000000" rotm10="0.000000" rotm11="1.000000" tx="199.000000" ty="200.000000" red="255" green="255" blue="255" alpha="255" ratio="0.000000" clipdepth="-1" unknown="0">
                    <poname name="MultiPlayNav" />
                </placeobject>
                <placeobject flags="38" depth="118" character="20" rotm00="1.000580" rotm01="0.000000" rotm10="0.000000" rotm11="1.000000" tx="199.000000" ty="250.000000" red="255" green="255" blue="255" alpha="255" ratio="0.000000" clipdepth="-1" unknown="0">
                    <poname name="OptionsNav" />
                </placeobject>
                <placeobject flags="38" depth="199" character="25" rotm00="1.000580" rotm01="0.000000" rotm10="0.000000" rotm11="1.000000" tx="199.000000" ty="150.000000" red="255" green="255" blue="255" alpha="255" ratio="0.000000" clipdepth="-1" unknown="0">
                    <poname name="SoloPlayNav" />
                </placeobject>

   <placeobject flags="182" depth="9" character="2" rotm00="1.000000" rotm01="0.000000" rotm10="0.000000" rotm11="1.000000" tx="-313.000000" ty="300.000000" red="255" green="255" blue="255" alpha="255" ratio="0.000137" clipdepth="-1" unknown="0">
    <poname name="ExitCredits" />
    <clipactions>
    <clipaction flags="1" flags2="0">
	 <string action="161" str="buttonName" />
	 <string action="166" str="$Exit" />
	 <noarg action="0" />
    </clipaction>
    </clipactions>
   </placeobject>

tx and ty are the coordinates (for a menu on the left side you must reduce the tx values).

[Elric]

Ok i get everything else but how to you use the converter? I put the files in the folder and then everything else after that i dont get...

[ReallyFat]

Dude, don't worry bout that. I'm on the APTs. i'll move it

[Elric]

Hey Apt editing guys, with the c&c tools i made a small gui interface. All you gotta do is Type in the name of the File.

Download

If i have MainMenu.apt and MainMenu.const then select the apt2xml.exe option. Then in the second textbox type: MainMenu. Press Run and there ya go. same goes for xml2apt.