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[Meyerm]

I'm not opposed to the hijacker being scorpion Cell. I'm just thinking they'd be getting too far away from their roots. Vanilla YR's Yuri faction had WAY too much emphasis on mind control and unit manipulation. MO created a nice balance, placing Epsilon's emphasis on conventional (or at least destructive) weapons, whilst still having that little bit of mind control to keep that Yuri feel.

[Admiral_Pit]

I'm still worried about how Scorpion Cell will beat Volkov somewhat.  Dune Riders seem to get a little buff, but still will likely die.  Stingers getting EMP'd as they pursue him and will die.  Plague Splatters can't hit a moving Volkov (or any moving target really), and it's worse if the unit has a hill disadvantage to make their accuracy worse.  Although Invaders are getting buffed, many Russia players tend to have other units nearby to support him.  Malver's likely to die if he gets too close, unless the opponent falls for a trap.  I'll probably say more about it after trying it out sometime.

I'm gonna miss the Mole Bomb though.  I used to use its drilling in combination with a Driller to trick opponents into following the Mole Bomb rather than the Driller.

[mevitar]

From my experience, it's not Volkov that SC fears the most (neither is Siegfried), but Morales. SC has plenty of options to deal with Volkov's and Siegfried's supporting army (especially airborne), as long as you don't stay in one spot and have some repairs. If Morales is surrounded by Catastrophes, there's nothing they can do, either due to drivers being killed or damage (he one-shot-kills Speeder Trikes!), and Tyrants being unable to crush Catas.

Hijackers should really help with this, though, since they're much faster than Adepts, and won't get auto-attacked if disguised. New Weaver Trap should also help SC to deal with heroes in general.

Edited by mevitar, 10 May 2014 - 11:21 PM.

[Petya]

Scorpion Cell never really had problems with Volkov. They can easily outnumber him.

[Haxxan]

1st Complain after BR2 comes out: Irkalla being OP 

[Petya]

That little hp buff won't make much difference. The first Irkalla had 2000 hps.

Edited by Petya, 11 May 2014 - 04:10 PM.

[Divine]

Libra is buffed. Good. Make her able to fire on the move and she will troll everything to no end. But Yunru was always weak, why nerf her EMP further? Also, please, do not remove City Fights Back (2-4). It's one of the best maps to test stuff because it has excellent defensive positions. And wolfhounds, borillos and Nü-Va cannons will be OP as hell, even with the minor nerfs.

[Petya]

Many ppl started using Yunru's deploy attack her Earthbreaker was buffed in order to make that attack more efficient. Yunru will take one slot in the Centurion again if I'm correct.

[Haxxan]

Is she immune from dogs? lol

[Petya]

No, why would she be immune to dogs?

[Divine]

No, why would she be immune to dogs?

Uhm... Because she is in an exoskeleton thing? Mortar quads are immune to dogs even tough they are just guys sitting on a quadbike. Making Yunru dog-proof would be a good idea imo.

Edited by Divine, 11 May 2014 - 06:00 PM.

[Meyerm]

Since Yunru has no attack against dogs, that may actually be a good idea. Volkov is, and he has an attack.

Edited by Meyerm, 11 May 2014 - 06:05 PM.

[mevitar]

Volkov is immune because he's a cyborg. Biting your throat won't really kill you if you're a machine.

[Meyerm]

The science behind it doesn't matter. Yunru is the only hero that can't kill dogs. You could say she developed a special exoskeleton or something. Dogs can't bite through everything, except maybe Chitzkoi.

[Black/Brunez]

It´s the only hero that can´t kill dogs... also the only hero which the primary weapon can´t do damage directly

 

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Edited by Black/Brunez, 12 May 2014 - 01:08 AM.

[Atomic_Noodles]

She's just wearing an Exoskeleton. Her vitals are still exposed. The only thing the Exoskeleton does is grant her increased strength to carry that Giant Hammer/EMP Device around.

[Meyerm]

But you can change it. Don't even have to make visual changes. cameo is too small to really see any details. Current art makes her look too improffesional, anyways, if you do want to change it.

[X1Destroy]

Volkov is immune because he's a cyborg. Biting your throat won't really kill you if you're a machine.

From a gameplay perspective, realism means nothing.
It does not matter if she's immuned to dogs gameplay wise, but not realism wise.

[Petya]

Yunru's exoskeleton doesn't cover every part of her body, so vital parts are vulnerable.

[Meyerm]

But what I'm saying is it doesn't have to be. There can be changes, retcons.