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[Derxwna Kapsyla]

Well, technically, the Tenerife Opera House shouldn't exist yet, as its construction was started in 1996, if I recall, and finished in 2003, so by blowing it up, you fix a time anomaly. :V

If the Iwo Jima can exist in both Red Alert 2 and Tiberium Wars, then the Tenerife Opera House can exist in Mental Omega

 

Time Is Meaningless, Everything Shall Return To Entropy, We Are All Slaves To Something Greater

The Dice Roll.

[Speeder]

Iwo Jima is a bit of a bigger issue I think.

[Lasombra]

Iwo Jima is a bit of a bigger issue I think.

 

Yes, Westwood made a huge screw-up here. Their world map also comes to mind.

 

The Opera House is much easier to hand-wave than those two problems, though. I don't see any reason why it cannot exist in a completely different timeline.

Edited by Lasombra, 17 March 2017 - 01:06 PM.

[Solais]

Well, wasn't there a war between the US and Japan in the Mental Omega backstory? Something something American Crusade, something something Japan just got independent. So Iwo Jima might just have happened.

[Lasombra]

Well, wasn't there a war between the US and Japan in the Mental Omega backstory? Something something American Crusade, something something Japan just got independent. So Iwo Jima might just have happened.

 

Did the Iwo Jima monument appear in MO? I don't remember seeing it in Raven, but I might have missed it.

 

 

Time Is Meaningless, Everything Shall Return To Entropy, We Are All Slaves To Something Greater

The Dice Roll.

 

 

WHAT SHALL BE WAS

WHAT WAS SHALL BE

 

_{I shouldn't play Stellaris so much.}

Edited by Lasombra, 17 March 2017 - 01:30 PM.

[Derxwna Kapsyla]

The Iwo Jima wasn't in Mental Omega, you can see it not where it should be in Red Dawn Rising; the point I was trying to make was that if Red Alert 2 and Tiberium Wars can have The Mother Of All Fucking Paradoxes present, Mental Omega can have a tiny little paradox here

[doctormedic]

Im suprised with all that time manipulation the allies havent fallen in a state of time where things become irreversibly imposible to change as events from the future have allready decided events in the present.

[Bernadiroe]

Im suprised with all that time manipulation the allies havent fallen in a state of time where things become irreversibly imposible to change as events from the future have allready decided events in the present.

 

Maybe there's a theory of inifinite alternate universe in Mental Omega timeline..?

In that case everytime they change events from past or future, they're creating a new alternate universe where that events belong in their current present time, right?

 

In which case the supposed-altered timeline is not actually altered, but instead creating a parallel new timeline which looks as if it's the altered form of the original one.

[doctormedic]

But the question is how would the outcome of the future affect the present?If they screw things up in the future what stops people coming from the future to the past (present),but then again how does the timeline acount this wouldnt it allready happen by default due to the events of the future which become void as the future is replaced by the future of the present timeline in which they went back to the past of the present?

Edited by doctormedic, 17 March 2017 - 10:00 PM.

[Solais]

Actually, there doesn't seem to be any timetravel involved still, just slowing down time and displacement.

[Bernadiroe]

That would only happen if we're thinking in "one universe" theory, in which case yes it will replace its own future (becoming a guaranteed truth when coming back to present time).

 

But if we're thinking in "infinite alternate universe", when they changed something in the future and then come back to present, they are on an entirely different, new timeline, which will go to this new future they created by making changes in the original timeline's future.

 

Ex: They depart from present time of point A to point B in the future. When they make changes on this point B, it becomes a new future, point B1 (it does not overwrite point B). When they came back to the present time, they don't come back to point A, they come back to point A1, which created because they are now in another new timeline (from making changes), in which will go towards B1 timeline.

[Handepsilon]

You know what, this talk makes my head spin :v

[doctormedic]

Yeah,lets not make time travel and universe bending more complicated than homestuck's

[Solais]

Homestuck's is really not that complicated. Then again, I do call myself a Seer of Time.

 

Anyways, I still think that in the end MO will still won't feature any time travel. Time bending is featured, but no proper time travel.

[Linken-Nightmare]

Hello?

I thought I heard Slave Miner screaming of freedom when I played Epsilon in skirmish at 12:23 am.

 

"We're free! WE'RE FREE!"

 

Glitch? Or Creepypasta?

Edited by Linken-Nightmare, 18 March 2017 - 09:55 AM.

[Derxwna Kapsyla]

Homestuck's is really not that complicated. Then again, I do call myself a Seer of Time.

 

Anyways, I still think that in the end MO will still won't feature any time travel. Time bending is featured, but no proper time travel.

Homestuck's plot is convoluted, but not complicated. 

I half expected someone to say Kingdom Hearts's plot is more complicated, to which I'd sit them down for the next 4 hours and explain how simple it really is

 

Hello?

I thought I heard Slave Miner screaming of freedom when I played Epsilon in skirmish at 12:23 am.

 

"We're free! WE'RE FREE!"

 

Glitch? Or Creepypasta?

I downloaded Mental Omega 3.3.4 from a mysterious website that I can no longer find

When I played it, it started screaming "SOON" repeatedly, and blood began to poor out of my monitor.

I'm pretty sure it was a glitch, and just continued playing.

[Linken-Nightmare]

 

Homestuck's is really not that complicated. Then again, I do call myself a Seer of Time.

 

Anyways, I still think that in the end MO will still won't feature any time travel. Time bending is featured, but no proper time travel.

Homestuck's plot is convoluted, but not complicated. 

I half expected someone to say Kingdom Hearts's plot is more complicated, to which I'd sit them down for the next 4 hours and explain how simple it really is

 

Hello?

I thought I heard Slave Miner screaming of freedom when I played Epsilon in skirmish at 12:23 am.

 

"We're free! WE'RE FREE!"

 

Glitch? Or Creepypasta?

I downloaded Mental Omega 3.3.4 from a mysterious website that I can no longer find

When I played it, it started screaming "SOON" repeatedly, and blood began to poor out of my monitor.

I'm pretty sure it was a glitch, and just continued playing.

 

Yeah, preeeeetty sure, it was a hoax.

 

But I'm still not sure if any Slave Miner's soul cursed the MO.

Hopefully not.

 

I'm afraid if the game turns out like Pokémon Ghost Black.

[Damfoos]

Check your game directory for .wav or .mp3 files, I had a similar glitch in RA2 loooong ago when I extracted one of SEAL's quotes into the game folder. It played between the OST tracks for some reason.

[Wayward Winds]

I had a similar glitch when I updated Twisted Insurrection then tried using an old save file.  The sound cues and music were all mixed up, with the main one I can remember being Cyborg quotes replacing drum notes in the music.  That got annoying fast.

Of course, MO not allowing save files (not counting using third party programs to save state the system) probably means it's something different here.

[Solais]

Technically, MO is still creating autosave files when you start a mission, you just can't do anything with it. I wonder if that can cause problems, but likely not.

 

Also, Kingdom Hearts' story is not that complicated, but it is a trainwreck.