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#2961 StolenTech

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 11:07 AM

archetype ? Television lies ? Scrapyard ????



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 02:31 PM

Eh, that's a hard decision to make......care to throw out some examples that you can think of?



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:31 PM

I have been wondering about one thing regarding Ares: is it possible to implement replays there? Would be awesome to load them from statistics screen. However, I assume it would be impossible to check replays of older MO versions.

 

Also does AlexB plan to implement what observers can do in TS/TI in MO? Like checking in-game what players are building etc.



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 09:15 PM

I have been wondering about one thing regarding Ares: is it possible to implement replays there? Would be awesome to load them from statistics screen. However, I assume it would be impossible to check replays of older MO versions.

 

Also does AlexB plan to implement what observers can do in TS/TI in MO? Like checking in-game what players are building etc.

 

afaik Replays are not possible in RA2/YR even with Ares but by some miracle AlexB can prank us with a cool feature

 

and also, observers can already check what players are building by pressing on the production building of the player iirc

 

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I wonder if online saves are possible in Ares. You know like TI and AOE2, where you can be playing a game then host saves it, then you can continue?


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 09:26 PM

No idea how complicated that would be. Collecting all the network traffic and replaying it at the correct point in time would most likely be reasonably easy (and the game has some code for that already), but integrating with the menus could be more complicated. Frankly, such features aren't what I like to work on.

I think it was in 2013 where I coded several features for observers, but I remember the interest in that to be pretty low. I snuck in a few changes over the years, like some information always being shown to observers (veteran and elite chevrons, factories show production cameo, repair wrench), but that's about it. There also were testing versions where observers would always see all cloaked units.

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 10:29 AM

But observers can't see production, they only can in hacked TS

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 11:03 AM

Eh, that's a hard decision to make......care to throw out some examples that you can think of?

in archetype and Television lies we still see allies on soviet soil after RA1 events making sure that soviets cannot rise to power again (which somehow still happened, probably thanks to Yuri), ironically which is what is happening to USA in Act2.

Scrapyard is just like modern day USA warfare and their greed for oil, I don't think I have to explain that one lol.



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 02:18 PM

 

Eh, that's a hard decision to make......care to throw out some examples that you can think of?

in archetype and Television lies we still see allies on soviet soil after RA1 events making sure that soviets cannot rise to power again (which somehow still happened, probably thanks to Yuri), ironically which is what is happening to USA in Act2.

Scrapyard is just like modern day USA warfare and their greed for oil, I don't think I have to explain that one lol.

 

And what happened in Archetype and Television Lies can also apply to real life with post-WWII Germany being divided up into East and West Germany? I want to say the same happens for Japan after their defeat in the face of two atomic weapons? (When the Americans occupy Japan....(I might be getting my history wrong so take what I said with a grain of salt. 

 

You are right about Scrapyard (although one might think that 9/11 might have been a false-flag U.S. govt attack in order to justify the need to invade the Middle East.)


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Posted 19 February 2018 - 02:23 PM

 

 

Eh, that's a hard decision to make......care to throw out some examples that you can think of?

in archetype and Television lies we still see allies on soviet soil after RA1 events making sure that soviets cannot rise to power again (which somehow still happened, probably thanks to Yuri), ironically which is what is happening to USA in Act2.

Scrapyard is just like modern day USA warfare and their greed for oil, I don't think I have to explain that one lol.

 

And what happened in Archetype and Television Lies can also apply to real life with post-WWII Germany being divided up into East and West Germany? I want to say the same happens for Japan after their defeat in the face of two atomic weapons? (When the Americans occupy Japan....(I might be getting my history wrong so take what I said with a grain of salt. 

 

You are right about Scrapyard (although one might think that 9/11 might have been a false-flag U.S. govt attack in order to justify the need to invade the Middle East.)

 

you.... do realise WWII never happened in RA Universe right ? neither did 9/11 lol.



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 02:41 PM

 

 

 

Eh, that's a hard decision to make......care to throw out some examples that you can think of?

in archetype and Television lies we still see allies on soviet soil after RA1 events making sure that soviets cannot rise to power again (which somehow still happened, probably thanks to Yuri), ironically which is what is happening to USA in Act2.

Scrapyard is just like modern day USA warfare and their greed for oil, I don't think I have to explain that one lol.

 

And what happened in Archetype and Television Lies can also apply to real life with post-WWII Germany being divided up into East and West Germany? I want to say the same happens for Japan after their defeat in the face of two atomic weapons? (When the Americans occupy Japan....(I might be getting my history wrong so take what I said with a grain of salt. 

 

You are right about Scrapyard (although one might think that 9/11 might have been a false-flag U.S. govt attack in order to justify the need to invade the Middle East.)

 

you.... do realise WWII never happened in RA Universe right ? neither did 9/11 lol.

 

lol meant to compare what happened in MO universe to what's happening now and what happened in the past. lol (if that helps any)



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 03:00 PM

I think there's a lot of subtle references how after RA1, the US pretty much became a superpower nobody could oppose and they could do whatever they wanted, invading Japan and occupying it until only recent times, taking over the middle east for the oil, etc. Yuri I think mentions things like "The American Crusade" and "American Empire", pretty much showing that the US got away with bunch of shit before the Soviet invasion. And might be why they are screwed over by the other Allies in their hour of need.



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 03:53 PM

To be slightly fair, the occupation of Japan could have been justified by MO!Pacific War, after the Japanese probably jumped at the opportunity to crve up their own colonial empire in Asia (and likely avenging the retreat of China an invasion by the USSR likely provoked) while the Europeans colonizers were busy with WWII, with the bonus fact that the Soviets were likewise busied, meaning they likely only faced part of the American forces... Only to be eventually curb-stomped like in reality.



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 06:54 PM

Small request: reduce the visual effect of some Foehn weapons eg. Ptera - the effect can be so blinding sometimes :p

 

Also; add Drok back to Soviet Music


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Posted 19 February 2018 - 07:25 PM

But observers can't see production, they only can in hacked TS

Found the bug. Fixed. Thanks!

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 11:32 PM

by the way i am sure this must of been discussed in the past but would it be possible to add separate categories when it comes to playing with or without superweapons. i personally hate playing with ultimate weapons as i (again personally) find them cheap and hate defending against them when playing a.i's. but i feel like i am missing out when playing without the support supers especially with the addition of the chronolift and iron guards.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 02:34 AM

by the way i am sure this must of been discussed in the past but would it be possible to add separate categories when it comes to playing with or without superweapons. i personally hate playing with ultimate weapons as i (again personally) find them cheap and hate defending against them when playing a.i's. but i feel like i am missing out when playing without the support supers especially with the addition of the chronolift and iron guards.

 

I personally find the Chronosphere and Iron Curtain support SW much more useful than the Epsilon and Foehn counterpart. Not to mention Lift and IGuards.

Ultimate weapons are the ultimate responses to turtling. CS and IC still offers a chance to break through, the other two are not as useful (and may even support the defense)


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Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:35 AM

Foehn, definitely. Epsilon's? That's debatable. Rage Inductor is a neat healing/firepower increasing machine that not only affects your vehicle, but also affect your infantries as well. Iirc, Rage Inductor also has greater radius than the previous two you mentioned


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Posted 21 February 2018 - 12:39 PM

still the point is i dont really get to use them as i like to turtle and sending out a strike team every couple of minutes to blow up an ultimate weapon kinda defeats the purpose



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 02:59 PM

I take it you're an offline player? That sounds like what I like to do when doing offline stuff

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 08:09 PM

Speaking of secondary super weapons, would it be possible to separate the "No superweapons" option to "No primary superweapons" and "No secondary superweapons"? Just in case I'm not the only one who's not a fan of nukes and other horrible WMD's, but have nothing against Iron Curtain and the likes.


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