Elitist condescending prick, Arrogant cunt
Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:13 PM
Why is this so important again?
Apocs are Soviet v Soviet tech so I guess they get those missiles to kill kirovs and wolfhounds and that kind of stuff
the result is the one who got infiltrated now can't rely on air units which can be really bad for RU
Meanwhile, the AA truck is meant to keep your army/base protected against barracudas and other jets that is why they have a laaarge range and not an insane damage but the thing is... they don't need to
Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:18 PM
In any match that isnt 1vs1 its a big problem
The main thing is, Apocs tank isnt suppose to be a super aircraft deleting vehicle (Actually to be accurate, the best AA in the entire mod) it is a infantry support heavy combat tank
Posted 11 February 2018 - 11:34 PM
The Apocalypse Tank is meant to fight most conventional weaponries and come out being the survivor, or else why the heck do you think it's called the Apocalypse in the first place if someone could just avoid it just by going aerial instead? Also, please remember that even though it's a "relic of the past", it's still meant to be a super tank packed full of firepower in the first place, and it's supposed to strike fear into anyone, whether they are on land or in the air.
Don't mind me, I'm just pretty broke nowadays...
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 11:42 PM
Strategically Losing
Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:18 PM
tbh, just remember that the nerf is only 15%-20% which is still not that big for the apocalypse tank, it will still shred everything
"I cast a deadly shadow." - Apocalypse
Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:09 PM
tbh, just remember that the nerf is only 15%-20% which is still not that big for the apocalypse tank, it will still shred everything
But hey, atleast its something, in theory it shouldnt be able to survive the 1vs1 fight against Irkalla anymore.
NGL, I was kinda drunk when I registered with this name.
Posted 15 February 2018 - 06:27 PM
I was just thinking about the lore, and I think it could be given a little more depth by making the main factions more realistic politically. The Soviet Union is presented rather faithfully, with the Comrade General's man in the KGB warning him of power struggles, and smuggling his family to America. I like this. Epsilon's goal is an enigma, I'd really like to see Yuri turn out as an idealistic man doing everything for what he deems to be the greater good. Or perhaps a faithful communist who thinks that communism can only be achieved if everyone has the same mind, literally. My problem is with the Allies. One does not have to look far West to find deep rooted corruption, moral decay, boundless exploitation, and incompetence in real life. I kinda miss references to these in MO, Allies appear to be morally flawless, I think this should change. Pacific Front's dealings with China could be brought up as an exception, but it's not something that is a core problem with the Allies, their system, or leaders.
This change doesn't have to be anything radical, or overly politicized. Just some mentions here and there, about for example the Allies losing the sympathy of some neutral countries, especially in the third world and parts of Eastern Europe that weren't Soviet to begin with, thanks to attempts to take over their economies, or influence their politics via covert means. A weapon program or two that fails because a competitor bribed an official in charge. Basically small references to real world problems the West has, without falling into the trap of making the game political. Just make the Allies a bit more shady.
Edited by Divine, 15 February 2018 - 06:28 PM.
Posted 15 February 2018 - 08:46 PM
. One does not have to look far West to find deep rooted corruption, moral decay, boundless exploitation, and incompetence in real life. I kinda miss references to these in MO, Allies appear to be morally flawless,
West wasnt always like that during Cold War or atleast it wasnt as obvious like it is nowadays. Nowadays, corruption is everywhere
Allies are portrayed as good because... well they are... and there isnt really anything better in MO world., communism isnt way to go, neither is being a mind controlled puppet. They are defending themselves and their allies from commies or a maniac. Given that MO is about their war, there isnt much room to discuss the behind the scenes. But theres some of it already though
like:
- Pretty much everyone turned their backs on Americans in their hour of need.
- When US was pretty much out, they were soo eager to scavenge and loot their technology
- They are selfish, PF and EA has such amazing technologies but they barely share it with each other. The vanilla RA2 portrayed Allies as more or less one united army, with technologies from each of its members accessible to each other.
NGL, I was kinda drunk when I registered with this name.
Posted 15 February 2018 - 10:27 PM
The Allies might be rightfully defending their clay, but it shouldn't make them the good guys by default. They are right to fight the Soviets and Yuri, but portraying them as the flawless champions of morality is very unrealistic and frankly, laughable. The real life Allies exterminated hundreds of thousands of civilians via bombings in WW2, the US did war crimes in Vietnam, conducted nuclear weapon tests on their own soldiers, toppled governments in like a dozen neutral countries via coups. What I'm trying to say, is that Allies fighting a defensive war is one thing, them being unrealistically good guys is another. And what I'm also saying is that making the Allies more realistic by occasionally showing their rotten side a bit more would be nice and it would give a bit more depth to the lore. The rest of the Allies turning their back on the US in their hour of need is realistic given the circumstances, but it's not a crime. It's just realpolitics, it's not a war crime, not corruption.
Edited by Divine, 16 February 2018 - 09:39 AM.
Conspiracy Theorist
Posted 15 February 2018 - 11:03 PM
Let's not forget the mission Hysteria, where the Allies put civilians in captured Bio-Reactors to charge the Paradox' battery. Which seems to be the only time the Allies showed any interest in civilians, considering they seem to be barely around, or used as fodder for mutations in MO. It must truly be the worst thing to be a civilian in the MO universe.
Edited by Solais, 15 February 2018 - 11:04 PM.
Posted 16 February 2018 - 05:40 AM
Harbinger tower shouldnt be buildable when superweapons are turned off
#ControlMOre
Posted 16 February 2018 - 08:46 AM
It's not a superweapon.
RTS Lorewalker
NGL, I was kinda drunk when I registered with this name.
Posted 16 February 2018 - 01:01 PM
It's not a superweapon.
At least not on Infantry Only mode please.. it's quite unstoppable there.
I agree, there's absolutely no reason why it should exist in IO. It's an epic unit for one, and no other factions have such a thing in that game mode, it is after all, technically a vehicle. It's also a bullet sponge, which is bad enough by itself, but in IO, there's really no reasonable way to stop it. A blob of AA infantry might do the trick but chances are that the casualities they will take will cost more than the Harbinger. And finally, Foehn is already nearly unstopable in IO thanks to their natural focus on infantry, and things like Zorbs, Banes, and Kingsframes.
Edited by Divine, 16 February 2018 - 03:16 PM.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:59 PM
The Allies might be rightfully defending their clay, but it shouldn't make them the good guys by default. They are right to fight the Soviets and Yuri, but portraying them as the flawless champions of morality is very unrealistic and frankly, laughable. The real life Allies exterminated hundreds of thousands of civilians via bombings in WW2, the US did war crimes in Vietnam, conducted nuclear weapon tests on their own soldiers, toppled governments in like a dozen neutral countries via coups. What I'm trying to say, is that Allies fighting a defensive war is one thing, them being unrealistically good guys is another. And what I'm also saying is that making the Allies more realistic by occasionally showing their rotten side a bit more would be nice and it would give a bit more depth to the lore. The rest of the Allies turning their back on the US in their hour of need is realistic given the circumstances, but it's not a crime. It's just realpolitics, it's not a war crime, not corruption.
"conducted nuclear weapon tests on their own soldiers"
What?
Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:46 PM
"conducted nuclear weapon tests on their own soldiers"
What?
funnily enough i recently saw a video of one of the tests where the americans detonated a nuclear bomb 18,500 feet above five soldiers plus a photographer who almost all VOLUNTEERED to do so.
the soldiers all lived and became known as the ground zero five.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:57 PM
wow.....that's insane.....I'd assume all died of radiation poisoning throughout the later years?
Posted 18 February 2018 - 12:41 AM
actually according to the article i am reading about them
most of the them only died recently in the early 2000's with one of the soldiers and the camera man possibly being alive today.
though as another example of nuclear testing i also just read that the americans also accidentally contaminated a small town in utah by conducting their nuke tests in nevada
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 12:52 AM
I wonder if Speeder and the other developers can show all sorts of tyranny the Allies did during the war?
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