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[Olorin]

That's what I was thinking with mount power. It could be similar to B4ME II's Dwarven Battlewagons (not as crappy, but the same concept ). Though the speed bonus would be effective. *relishes the thought of Gondorian soldiers getting squished by Wainriders*

[Alsch]

On a kind of related subject (you'll see why), does Rohan still have the draft power, that upgrades peasants?

If not - if the Rohan powers aren't finalized yet - is it possible/practical to code a power that turns a battalion of infantry into a battalion of cavalry? This would go well with the cavalry and desperate-for-soldiers theme Rohan has.

[Olorin]

That's a really...interesting idea. It might be a bit hard to code but otherwise it could work. It could take Drafts place (of course it'll be a bit more expensive, say 3 power points), but to balance it it should only work on one or two types of units from the Rohan main-faction, like Peasants or a new type of unit.

Edited by Olorin, 11 February 2007 - 05:55 AM.

[Alsch]

Of course.

[Uruk King]

I personally hope that the RA team remove the Draft power from Rohan and that Peasants are already armed when they are recruted because a soldier without a weapon is like a Mumak without it's tusks, but yeah I also like your idea about a draft power that puts peasants on horses so I hope they do something to make the peasants more better fighters.

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[Olorin]

Nah, I kinda liked the Draft concept in the original version, although I never used it as I never used peasants. But yeah, when you get farmers and what not out of their farms, you wouldn't really expect them to be armed to the teeth, would you? So, from a realistic point of view, it makes sense. And in the battle for Helm's Deep, remember that scene when they were arming the soldiers, and Gimli and Legolas say that thing about them seeing to many winters?

Edited by Olorin, 11 February 2007 - 08:37 AM.

[Barak]

Even though they are not armed they could still repair things. They weren't completely useless. I'd still rather have them armed from the start though

[Olorin]

I'm not saying that they're useless, far from it actually. But in terms of fighting they were pretty bad unless they had the Draft upgrade. For me (if I ever used them) they would be the maintainance/stronghold defense unit, if that makes any sense at all.

[Nertea]

Hopefully peasants will be a little more useful, and a little more logically armed (why would you fight with a saw?)

[Bard]

And Rohan still keeps the Draft power

Edited by Bard, 11 February 2007 - 12:21 PM.

[hdh7]

I think peasants should do decent against orcs but not so good against other troops.

[Alsch]

Well now that Rohan has several other infantry options, I don't really see a reason to have peasants armed at the beginning.

[Nertea]

Remember that a faction should be able to function well without using any minifaction units. That's our goal, and it can be a bit of a pain.

[Alsch]

True.

[hdh7]

I have an Idea: Yeomen archers could be able to switch between a bow and sword on comand. They would become a more versitile infantry unit instead of just an archer and they could be called just Yeomen.

[Alsch]

I don't know about that. We don't need every faction do have a sword/bow toggle unit.

[Olorin]

Hopefully peasants will be a little more useful, and a little more logically armed (why would you fight with a saw?)

Well they wouldn't really have any other weapons on the farm apart from hammers and rakes. Actually, that wouldn't do too bad for eye candy, seeing peasants fighting with rakes or something similar.

Well now that Rohan has several other infantry options, I don't really see a reason to have peasants armed at the beginning.

They won't be armed at the beginning anyway, they'll have to use the Draft power to arm themselves. And they'll still have that Repair power, won't they?

Remember that a faction should be able to function well without using any minifaction units. That's our goal, and it can be a bit of a pain.

That's a good, balanced concept. By the way, will there be any maps where there won't be any mini-faction plots, or at least with like 1 or 2 plots (each) at the most? Cause that'll add to that concept.

I have an Idea: Yeomen archers could be able to switch between a bow and sword on comand. They would become a more versitile infantry unit instead of just an archer and they could be called just Yeomen.

That all depends if they're gonna be in the mod at all. And don't Rohan already have a decided bow/sword toggling unit?

I don't know about that. We don't need every faction do have a sword/bow toggle unit.

Very true.

[m@tt]

Number of minifaction plots depends on the size of the map and the space, and also areas of tactical advantage. For instance Lothlorien (3P) has 3, Vales of Anduin (4P) has 6 and Dimrill Dales (4P) has 8.

[Olorin]

Makes sense, but if there are fewer in one or two maps that would add a bit more strategy as to not rely on your mini-factions. Meh, that's my idea.

[Uruk King]

Are you saying that in while there's a minifaction plot outside every base, there would be an additional few scattered across every map, and you would have to secure that minifaction plot as fast as you can, in which case, Lothlorien has two bases, and one spare minifaction plot.

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