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#341 Alsch

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 03:09 AM

Different names, same thing.

Goblin is a term generally used to describe the cave version, like the ones in Moria and Gundabad, while Orc and Uruk are generally used to describe the factory-produced warrior kind. However, they are the same thing.
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#342 Olorin

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 05:17 AM

And a hobgoblin is the same thing as a goblin, in case you meant that. ;) By the way, in my last post, I meant Azrael's idea for the ability. I don't know why I wrote hdh7; he didn't suggest anything. Meh, it's fixed now.
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Posted 09 March 2007 - 09:35 AM

Goblins = orcs. There is no difference ffs. Orc is the Elven version, goblin is the common-tongue (the elven blade Orcrist translated to goblin-cleaver).

Re-read the Moria chapter and see how many times "goblin" was mentioned.
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Posted 09 March 2007 - 11:06 AM

orc sounds way better.... ;)

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 05:58 PM

I agree, the word Goblin is fairly childish, Tolkien used "goblin" for the orcs in the Hobbit to encourage young readers to read his upcoming works, when thise young readers were a bit older they would move on to LOTR.

But back to hero powers, one of isengards newest heroes is Wulf. Based on a dunland cheif from the Two Towers, and named after Tolkien's Wulf.

*lvl 1) Pillage
*lvl 3) Axe Attack (Wulf's axe damage is increased temporarily)
*lvl 5) Leadersip (grant's 50% damage to Dunlandings)
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Posted 10 March 2007 - 06:51 AM

is wulf based on the guy in the extended scenes where the chieftain goes to saruman and say "we will die for saruman"
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Posted 10 March 2007 - 07:05 AM

Yup, looks like it.
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Posted 10 March 2007 - 04:46 PM

You know there are a few minifactions without heroes such as Khand, Far Harad, Gundabad and the Iron Hills. I know it would be a bit foolish and perhaps betraying the "laws of Tolkien" but mabye the Mod-team could add some original heroes to the minifactions that lack heroes so that those minifactios are of greater value and mabye some additional units to factions like Ered Luin and Gundabad again so that they have greater value and so that their minifaction is more than a couple of upgrades, powers and units.
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Posted 10 March 2007 - 06:09 PM

I am sure each minifaction will get a proper value, heroes or not. :crazed:

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Posted 10 March 2007 - 09:30 PM

Are you sure Iron hills don't have a hero? There msut be some dwarf from there you could use

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Posted 11 March 2007 - 07:16 AM

Dain or his son could be heros, but they are going to be Erebor heroes i think
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Posted 11 March 2007 - 07:49 AM

Isn't Dain already going to be a hero for the Iron Hills?
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Posted 11 March 2007 - 08:21 AM

why would be King under the Mountain (Erebor) hero for Iron Hills :thumbsupsmiley: Minifaction doesnt need hero all the time. powerfull unit or units that changes or bring new factor to mainfaction gameplay could be enough

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Posted 11 March 2007 - 08:25 AM

He was the King of Erebor? Damn, damn, damn EALA for confusing me. :thumbsupsmiley: :thumbsupsmiley:
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Posted 11 March 2007 - 08:34 AM

Yes he was King of Erebor during the War of the Ring but he was in fact from the Iron Hills. I've also looked in the Thain's Book forDwarves from the iron hills at the end of the Third Age, and there's no one. No Dwarves from the Iron Hills with the Exception of Dain Ironfoot.
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Posted 11 March 2007 - 08:38 AM

Thanks for clearing that up for me, Uruk King. Well then, it doesn't look like the Iron Hills mini-faction is going to be getting a hero, unless the team makes one up, but I doubt that.
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Posted 11 March 2007 - 08:44 AM

Yep, they said before they won't make a hero up. They took Drogoth as the example :thumbsupsmiley:

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Posted 11 March 2007 - 08:48 AM

And they certainly won't be taking heroes from different Time Periods of the Third Age and sticking them in the War of the Ring either.
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Posted 11 March 2007 - 09:33 AM

Ah well, I'm sure the team will make the Iron Hills uber even though they don't have any heroes. I just like the name of the place

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Posted 11 March 2007 - 12:51 PM

Yep, they said before they won't make a hero up. They took Drogoth as the example :thumbsupsmiley:


But we have made up heroes before, just not as far-fetched as Drogoth.

Hildigais for example, and Einar.

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