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#2161 ApOcOlYpS

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 09:27 PM

LOL!!!! You really are a turtle player. You don't use limit SW???? I always do that (except on Remix cause than all bldgs are limited to one, but that's fun to do occasionally.) The hero's in contra work like SWs, as do the Super units. They are limited to 1 if you use tournament mode/limit SWs.

SWG IS getting some other defences early game in the next version. You just need to learn that you can't win in this mod by turtling. The AI builds way too much artillary for that, they crush your defences cause ur not micromanaging units to stop them, they get promos, and you get mad.

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 10:04 PM

Im not dumb but you cant do anything else than turtling with SWG. Also is Demo gen far too weak and Laser overpowered. I couldnt even kill Insane laser as Gla assault with a 12 wf spam....fucking auroras. Also is it possible to add reps? btw apoc lets play a game together ok?

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 12:05 PM

1)will laser have more plasma weapons then particles in the next version?
2)will flame have more at weapons in the begin?

1) Yes. He will have laser drone instead of Hellfire one, Plasma strike instead of A-10 and laser Paladin instead of normal one.
2) No.

China INF battle fortress starts without units WTF for 5000?

It has its own weapons.

I also found out that the general with AA wich makes yellow poison stingers(idk the gen as it was comp) Those things are far too strong

I know. Will be fixed in next version.

Also limit the heroes to 5 as 100 its far too many..

Will be limited to 3 in next version.

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 12:17 PM

What will happen with demo gen aircraft?

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 12:38 PM

Awwww. He plays against insaine. Isn't that special. Please. Don't say you need to turtle until you and your friends take on the insaine ai in Remix (3 btw). They actually arn't that hard. as long as the person across from them doesn't die, you can get around the side of the map to his base easy.

But seriously, insaine isn't anything special. 2 ppl vs 6 insaine enemies, withought turttling. My friend and I do it all the time. (we do build defences for the early few strikes, but unless ur usa (which I also bet u play as most. SWG probably?) you have no planes for anti artillary, so you really can't turtle).


Your talking about the Insaine AI in remix? or in Contra?

I very very very much doubt you can take on 6 Insaine Remix AI's, even with 2 people.Unless you have a corrpt file and the AI isn't working properly. No one has managed to beat it 1Vs1... or at least no one has posted a reply so how can you believe them. a 2v1 battle against an insaine is difficult. but can be done, but there is no way you could take on 6.
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 05:02 PM

I play it 1v1 on TD with the money set to -1 I can take the gla and China because it doesnt has any planes(hardly uses it) but Im having big problems with Air and Laser as its total pwnage(even though I won vs it) I tried to upload the replays here but I dont know where to upload it. Creator I know the battlefortress has it own weapons but compared to the other powerfull units the weapons arent as strong. I also would make the inf cheaper as its far too expensive(for some gens). Also for flame gen add an upgrade that you can build flame rockets as their TH's are overpowered at the start of the game they also kill inf in 1 shot.

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 05:11 PM

Oh God no not remix insaine. Contra insaine. You're right, there is no way that ANYone could take on 6 insaine remix ai (especially when tank and AFG ai's are put in). The contra ai isn't quite as devastating, so It's possible to take on 6.

Creator I know the battlefortress has it own weapons but compared to the other powerfull units the weapons arent as strong. I also would make the inf cheaper as its far too expensive(for some gens).


I agree with that. I had a bunch of battle fortresses get owned by the like 6 hell spawns, and I had like 2 full of minigunners. Could you please at least improve armor of it. I mean really, it's a fortress. At least make the rockets on the hell spawn it's limited ammo (I believe it's cannon is what is limited, so it fires constant flame rockets).

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 05:33 PM

I played Demo again and I found out that terrorists and Bomb trucks totally sucks, they are quite expensive and you need like 6 of them to kill a wf. Also it has only like 6 tanks and you cant rush or defend with them as they die with only 1shot. Also I would definitely make all China units weaker as they have far too much armor and are almost unstoppable by gla...It would be cool as well if the Gla stealth tank would be able to move underground(5k 1). It would be cool to get all units in the tunnel or add a new tunnel wich allows bigger units to enter as I think its kinda gay that you cant put Luna's in the tunnels.

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 02:53 AM

I played Demo again and I found out that terrorists and Bomb trucks totally sucks, they are quite expensive and you need like 6 of them to kill a wf. Also it has only like 6 tanks and you cant rush or defend with them as they die with only 1shot. Also I would definitely make all China units weaker as they have far too much armor and are almost unstoppable by gla...It would be cool as well if the Gla stealth tank would be able to move underground(5k 1). It would be cool to get all units in the tunnel or add a new tunnel wich allows bigger units to enter as I think its kinda gay that you cant put Luna's in the tunnels.


I never liked demo gen. It's not my play style to have units get themselves killed. Though I agree that the bomb truck does suck. It's also annoying that they're pretty easy to find and to kill, so you really only can use them after blowing a hole in the opponents defence and guarding units. But it is demo gen, so his bomb's should be powerful.

On the idea of the sand wraith being able to tunnel, marvelous idea. It should have an ability to tunel (though only itself should tunnel, not like make a tunnel network) and you would than recieve a gen power with like a 1-2 min charge time, wich allows you to have the sand wraith emerge from the ground anywhere (on land obviously).

GLA should have a large tunnel network, able to hold any ground vehicle (the sneak attack should be a large one). It should be another building (not just like an upgrade) which hase another turret on it. But ya, all those are good suggestions.

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 10:51 AM

i love demo! though hes very useless against GLA (holes)... or china (mines)... but in later games hes pretty awsome if you play/survive that long...
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Posted 16 January 2008 - 01:21 PM

lol. Suicide units survive. That's great.

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 02:51 PM

Demo just sucks(maybe its a bit harsh but its true), it doesnt has any good tank. The tunnels start with terrorists(WTF?) wich arent powerfull at all. Also the bombtruck is far too weak and too expensive. It also doesnt has any special units, except the planes wich get raped by 1 gat....I miss the disguise as enemy vehicle ability as well. Also for all gla's Quads are underpowered...they dont have any armor vs tank but are still 800$.

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:09 PM

This is not meant in a harsh way... but seeing the posts you have made, I'm guessing your a new player?

Because demo gen can really turn the hurt up on someone. big time, and you will wish the other player did not choose him.
A good side is not based around "good tanks". It is more about tactics and how well you utilise them. And demo general has some very nasty tactics and units to rape a player.
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Posted 16 January 2008 - 10:06 PM

I very very very much doubt you can take on 6 Insaine Remix AI's, even with 2 people.Unless you have a corrpt file and the AI isn't working properly. No one has managed to beat it 1Vs1... or at least no one has posted a reply so how can you believe them. a 2v1 battle against an insaine is difficult. but can be done, but there is no way you could take on 6.

Lies, Pend had to acctuly rebalance alot of the units so I wasnt able to beat it eanymore (I found alot of tactics against him ;D).

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 02:03 AM

At least nerf all china general and usa general....at this point those general are to powerful to handled in 1 on 1 insane....except all gla that are very possibly beatable....especially...china flame,tank and nuke general and for usa is robotic,air forces and laser...and please buff gla general possibly include new unit or weapon to balance itself again china and usa...especially gla demo and assault...those general are too weak to at least give a decent fight to usa and china ..compare to poison and stealth that can give hell before going down...

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 10:06 PM

Getting back on the suggestions topic... Can the mod be given another .ini file to remember the game data in the same way that the options.ini remembers the setup data? Somewhere there has to be some kind of memory for that page because it can remember my color, so the rest could be stored too right???

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 07:55 AM

The game usually remembers map and color. Normal generals and ZH remember them.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:02 PM

Lies, Pend had to acctuly rebalance alot of the units so I wasnt able to beat it eanymore (I found alot of tactics against him ;D).


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Posted 19 January 2008 - 06:04 PM

http://www.gamerepla...p;#entry2220734
http://www.gamerepla...p;#entry1823611

These are 2 replays of me. Its just true that demo sucks.

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 08:09 PM

No it just means that YOU suck as demo gen, GLA are not about turtling and spamming units.

And WTF is that VZH?!

AND OMFG YOU, BLUE AND RED, all sold CC, as USA and china = MapHack unless u can play without radar, online?

And no1 is playing as demo gen so wtf are u on about?

and 1 last thing, u use cheap humma tactics and alphas, well done

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