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[SovietSoldier]

the reason i want haradrim with scimitars,is because i the movie,we dont see their swords.but the book mentions they had scimitars,so anything the movie does not list,we can use the book.

In the Return of the King game the easterling soldiers had scimitars, so maybe the haradrim can have them too. AND the game is based by the movie, so I support the scimitars. (and that would be unique too)

i don't think they were scimitars.they weren't like curved,they were straight.

[Pixel]

The Haradrim were said to be skilled archers and horsemen. The haradrim in the movie had both spears and bows, aswell as an easterling type spear.

[Nazgûl]

...i don't think they were scimitars.they weren't like curved,they were straight.

Let's drop the scimitar debate with this?



Haradrim will stay with the slightly bent sword they have now, call it what you want
I'll ask my Modeler (Flame^) to give the Easterlings a "scimitar" though, like this one ^

EDIT: You should validate your email SovietSoldier?

Edited by Nazgûl, 01 August 2008 - 10:44 AM.

[SovietSoldier]

OFF TOPIC:the message was never sent,Nazgul.
On topic:um,yeah,the easterlings are my favorite people on middle earth.
I like the spear and shield.I also like the swords they have.In the ROTK game,they had 2 of those swords.

also,i hate how the easterlings were not mentioned and seen only for a brief part in the movie.I think to balance it out,the Easterlings would have more,because Haradrim came from Rhun,thats what i heard.I heard the Variags of Khand and the Haradrim warriors were originally in Rhun.

[Nazgûl]

Nah... Easterlings are from Rhûn which means "east", while Haradrims are from Harad, which means "south"

Rhûn is the main faction and Harad will be the other half. Basically they'll be equally "big" except for the fortress and the walls that will be Rhûn. The faction is named "Rhûn" though, for these reasons =)

You're gonna love the new Easterling models and skins, but at the moment the T3A FTP-server doesn't seem to respond so I can't upload screens of the Easterling Spearmen that I added tonight...

[SovietSoldier]

hm,ive heard in the earlier times,people went from rhun to the south and named the country harad.
lets drop the Easterling-Haradrim debate with this:
http://frozen.rightr...s-middle-earth/
Khand is Turkey?well,they dont seem like turkish people.they seem like japanese and mongolian.am i correct?
and also,make sure you can code the easterling pikemen to do a shield formation.Pikemen should have shield formation.

[Nazgûl]

Yeah... perhaps, just watch the tone when your posting plz

[SovietSoldier]

yes,i noticed it was too fast,sorry nazgul

[Nazgûl]

Ah, finally the FTP works again

- Barracks are in, using a temp model...
Here's the second Easterling unit: Spearmen! (Using the original Easterling model in BFME2, with new high res skins!)

CREDIT: Robnkarla for original skin from CaH textures (cleaver ), slightly edited by me

[SovietSoldier]

what a coincidence,we were just talking about them.anyways,

are the Easterlings going to be the finest pikemen?if not,who will be?

[Nazgûl]

Oh crap =/ FTP server down again... I had 3 new screens for y'all

The Barracks will give:
* Lvl1: Easterling Swordsmen - normal unit
* Lvl2: Easterling Spearmen - strong unit
* Lvl3: Easterling Pikemen, aka "The Soldiers of Rhûn" - Elite pike unit (PreReq: Armory and all Technology)
* Lvl3: Easterling Axemen - single very strong unit

The Stables will give:
* Lvl1: Easterling Kataphrakts - strong cavalry
* Lvl2: Easterling Wainriders - very strong single unit cavalry

The Haradrim will be weak melee units but they will also muster a deadly set of Archers and Lancers, as well as the seond fastest cavalry units in the game, next to Elven; Haradrim Raiders and as a fun twist; Mahûd Raiders on Camels

There's the current roster ^ hehe

[SovietSoldier]

um,nazgul,what is FTP?

[Nazgûl]

Google is your friend Check HERE!

Here we go with some screens of our two units.. The third I added tonight, misses bones (anims), so we'll have to work more on those... But here are Swordsmen and Spearmen together

Edited by Nazgûl, 03 August 2008 - 03:14 AM.

[Jonasking]

Soviet:Confusing map Soviet ,if you look at this you understand that Rhûn or Harad isin't a part of each other:http://fantasymaps.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/middle-earth-map-wallpaper.jpg

EDIT:Some spelling

Edited by Jonasking, 03 August 2008 - 06:03 PM.

[SovietSoldier]

Offtopic:i never said they were a part of each other.i said Haradrim were originally from Rhun,but moved to Harad.
Ontopic:Nazgul,why would you make pikemen and spearmen?thats kinda the same thing.even though its not the same thing,there are slight differences.

[Nazgûl]

1) I'm not "making" them... I'm using what I can find in the files.
2) Spears and Pikes can be different things, just like Swords and Scimitars, I guess. In this case I call long weapons Spears and short "melee spears" for Pikes. The spearmen will be the anticavalry specialized in those tactics, like other similar units. Using Porcupine formation as a special ability. Pikemen fight with short pikes in melee combat and they're also using shields.

The Spearmen model are the original BFME2 model, with new skins.
The Pikemen model is new (made by Lauri) and it uses the original BFME1 model anims, only with new skins.

Ergo - both units have different anims, as well as different equipment. That's enough to call it a pretty darn good setup as most scenarios are basically just copied units with same anims and only different skins and balance settings

Here they are in game: Easterling Pikemen - the elite force of Rhûn

CREDIT: Lauri (model) + Robnkarla & Nazgûl (skin)

[SovietSoldier]

I like the axeman.Could he be the first to use a siege equipment of some sort?I would really like it to be like berserkers.

[Nazgûl]

You "like the Axeman"? You mean the idea of the axeman? You haven't seen him yet...?
"Use siege"? "Like Berserkers"? Can berserkers use siege?
Not sure I follow here...

[Pixel]

hm,ive heard in the earlier times,people went from rhun to the south and named the country harad.

I havent heard anything alike this before, Any idea where you heard it?

lets drop the Easterling-Haradrim debate with this:
http://frozen.rightr...s-middle-earth/
Khand is Turkey?well,they dont seem like turkish people.they seem like japanese and mongolian.am i correct?

The map, shows the location of where the middle-earth locations would be on are current map today. Not, what countries there armor/design etc would be alike.

[SovietSoldier]

Bless you all for correcting me.Nazgul,i like the idea of the axeman,and by using siege,i mean how berserkers were the first to use the siege ladder at the battle of helms deep.could the axeman do something similar?

flame guard,i found this from one of Beriadan's posts:

My point is, it would sound A LOT better (and I said this before in another thread but will say it again) to call them something like "Rhun" (which means "East" in elvish and, well, after all, all "evilmen" came from there, the East! Easterlings, Khand-men and even Haradrim, who came from 'Harad' [or the south], came from the east too, or at least the south-east, of Middle-earth).

Edited by SovietSoldier, 04 August 2008 - 12:55 AM.