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[Emperor of the East]

Nice skins-from-other-game concept, khamulrulz. I should say though that the spearmen idea you brought here from Total War is more appropriate for Khand, as the skin for spearmen we know from Beta 4.5 is more Main-faction-Rhun-like. For other skins:

Haradrim Archers:


Haradrim Cavalry:


Haradrim Cavalry Archers (unless the lancer will toggle between spear and bow like the rohirrim):


Haradrim anti-cavalry:


(Haradrim Swordsmen only need a re-color, the movies use an elaborate version of the books' impliment of "gold and red")

Mahud units (only the infantry would have CaH CM clubs and hammers instead of blades and shields:



I am aware that these are all for Rhun's minifaction of Harad, and I agree with the Variags using axes instead of swords. PS, Khand should have two units: an archer and axemen who can toggle mounted, or a horseman and footman who can toggle weapon.

[Lord Fox]

why cant they use axes and swords?

[khamulrulz]

nice haradrim pics... i just wonder if the guys who made that mod would be willing to share models, or even if the project team would want to (more work). yeah i agree that the current easterling spearman should stay as it is... the one i put up from total war doesnt fit

[Archon]

Well I'm not sure about sharing models from completely different games.
Of course I'm not really a modeler so I'm not sure about that. Cue ttandchotmail.

[Dant]

Hmm..i don't think "Third Age" team want to share it is their own work,Beside it might not work well with BFME it's..difference engine games.

[Dark_l0rd_Davian]

yea it would be great t have them but they are 2 different games like dant said

[khamulrulz]

yeah it's a shame... i think this faction is gonna turn out awesome anyway

[Dant]

I'm sure SEE modellers can handle it..although without "Third Age Totalwars" model designed.

[Khamûl the Black Nazgûl]

I don't like the shields, I think they are too small.

[Dark_l0rd_Davian]

see make great models so it doesnt really matter

[Khamûl the Black Nazgûl]

I think the Haradrim anti-cavalry are the best.
In the movies the haradrim only use spears, like this:

Edited by Khamûl the Black Nazgûl, 29 September 2009 - 03:03 PM.

[khamulrulz]

im reading the lord of the rings now, and it does mention a type of men from the east that look nothing like the core group of easterlings that the movie seems to depict. "countless companies of Men of a new sort that we have not met before. Not tall, but broad and grim, bearded like dwarves, wielding great axes. Out of some savage land in the wide East they come, we deem."

someone on a previous page posted a picture of what they could look like:


i think they're probably from northern rhun, and based more on barbarian tribes of eastern europe and russia rather than the other easterlings, which are based more on cultures like the mongols and persians.

i was thinking that the elite easterling axeman could look like this, while the other units are kept with their "movie" skins. although like i said earlier with my total war proposal it's just a suggestion and i like what the s.e.e. crew have done with the models already.

Edited by khamulrulz, 01 October 2009 - 04:55 AM.

[Nazgûl]

*quick update* (Have NOT read the 10 000 posts since I "left")

Flameguard is BACK, and working on Harad units...

[khamulrulz]

look forward to the haradrim models
and nazgul, i dont know if you've read the previous pages since your last post, but i had an idea for the spam unit of evil men: slaves of nurn. they were slaves sent from rhun and harad to around the sea of nurn to farm for mordor. they could be used as porters as well. i don't know your stance on borrowing skins from other games, but i saw some really nice easterling skins from third age: total war, and i posted them a page or two ago. ones i think could be really nice are the skin i posted for the nurn slaves, the easterling archers, the variags, and the heavy armor set for axemen. or for axemen, you could use the "new bearded, grim" easterlings that appear in the 3rd book. just ideas, because youve done a GREAT job already, and you probably won't like the idea of borrowing skins from another game.

even if you don't agree with my suggestions above, i don't really like the look of the variags (with all due respect) because i think they look too samurai-ish, and should be more turkish-looking, like in third-age total war, and with axes and bows and horses

you s.e.e. guys are doing a great job with this faction, and i cant dream of playing the vanilla game again

Edited by khamulrulz, 03 October 2009 - 10:06 AM.

[Emperor of the East]

I look forward to the entire mod, especially this faction! Keep up the good work Jes' add Easterling Archers, Variags like I suggested, Haradrim Pikemen, Mahud Infantry, three Nazguls (Khamul, Indur, Uvatha), the Blue Wizards and TADA you have added all the tech tree of post one needs. But... don't make any of this faction barbaric. Please.

PS, I'll have suggestions for Mordor and Erebor, but they are in their respective sections...

[khamulrulz]

i know that the easterling axemen are gonna be like berserkers, but which unit is the mini-hero-horde? the mahud bludgeoners (they could be really awesome), or the easterling spearmen?

[Nazgûl]

Mini hero horde?

[yams in a can]

He is talking about your elite units, which are like the "mini-hero" hordes from ROTWK, except yours make sense and don't throw 4 axes and kill 16 people .

[Nazgûl]

As seen in post #1, this is the only finished and put-into-game unit yet for Harad, but Flame promised me the rest of them very soon...
Model by FlameGuard, skins by me and Eldarion...

[khamulrulz]

so what is going to be the evil-men equivalent of black uruks or fountain guard i.e. limited unit count, but very powerful?

and there is a hill troll in the rhun forge and orcs in the harad slave mill... are those going to be reskinned?

and i think that there could be slight differences in armor or clothing (like in total war) between easterling units, because there will be 7 units (swordsmen, spearmen, pikemen, archers, kataphracts, wainriders, axemen) with pretty much exactly the same skin, and even gondor and isengard aren't that uniform. there should at least be some variation.

Edited by khamulrulz, 05 October 2009 - 04:44 AM.