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[Devon]

Gondor does not need any more heroes, and damrod is getting the boot. Boromir costs 1600 and currently is a very good mid to late game troop leader, and I think he serves his purpose very well.

[Scryer]

Bottom-line for me:

- If Rob decides to can Boromir's knock-back attack then I think that we should definitely consider adding in an offensive power to him.

- Regardless of whether or not Boromir's knock-back is taken away (either completely or his knock-back has no effect on monsters such as trolls), I think that Boromir should get a better leadership power (I'm thinking his same leadership power plus an experience effect) and/or maybe a later power (like maybe level 7-9) that boosts his health permanently.

The reason that I would like the second change is because Boromir is too much of an early-game hero for me.

And these will be my final thoughts on this discussion.

Edited by Scryer, 18 January 2009 - 05:41 PM.

[Hasfusel]

Boromir isn't a late game hero. He has three powers, for goodness' sake, and only two are much use.
I don't much like his knockback, to be honest. I'd rather he just did splash damage.

Why is Damrod going? I rather liked him.

[Devon]

He was a weaker clone of faramir, redundant, and not even a hero in Tolkien's books.

[Nertea]

*wanders in* If I were to do a retexture of the KoDA for RJ (note: a retexture, not a remodel), what would you people like to see? All in the spirit of percieved democracy . Bear in mind that I like my design, so it's not going to chage much.

[mike_]

le gasp! I'd prefer chainmaille and a tunic with the swan-boat on it, in place of padded cloth

[{IRS}Athos]

I'd like to have them in a color that's more navy than light blue. Same goes for Imrahil.

[Devon]

I like the purple tbh

[{IP} Aridor]

Shut your mouth heathen.

[mike_]

Christ, Aridor

[Devon]

Ouch?


Purple is just a traditionally royal color, in my opinion.

[Scryer]

Nertea, to be honest I have never liked the long mail (I believe?) that the KoDAs have. It seems too "medieval-crusader" to me and it doesn't look like it fits with the other units in Gondor.

Edit: Hahaha, I love how you managed to completely change the discussion here, for your own greedines .

Edited by Scryer, 19 January 2009 - 03:53 AM.

[{IRS}Athos]

Agreed.

[Hasfusel]

Maybe their plate armor could be worn over their tabards?

I reckon Damrod should be just changed to Madril, who was fairly important in the film. He was Faramir's advisor who ended up getting stabbed by Gothmog, remember?

[Argeleb]

Colour to blue, please! Then Argeleb is happy

[Hasfusel]

It would make sense for the KoDA to be removed from Gondor considering they're already in the Southern Fiefdoms inn faction, right? There's no point otherwise, really. Maybe Gondor's KoDA could be renamed to something else, or removed entirely?
And could the Southern Fiefdom KoDA have a group foot/horseback toggle rather than being two seperate units?

Edited by Hasfusel, 19 January 2009 - 01:38 PM.

[Devon]

Dol Amroth had a stronger allegiance to the White City than most of the other fiefdoms I think, which is why they're represented in the faction.


I think

Edited by Yoda_, 19 January 2009 - 03:23 PM.

[{IP} Aridor]

The Koda were very important. The Fiefdoms weren't separate really. It just meant that they were NOT under the DIRECT control of the crown, or at that time the Steward. It is like a state and their leaders are governors. Actually the Fief of Dol-amroth had the most independence and importance. The Prince of Dol-Amroth was of very high blood and held the second largest fief in the nation. That being said they did have a very important role in the defense of the Capital city. The KODA were the main Cavalry force for that nation of Gondor. They were main force to come to Minas Tirith because the other units were held back defending the city from the Corsairs. When the Steward summoned the aid of the outlying fiefdoms the Prince and his knights came because it was their duty. He brought his best. The lords in charge of the Fiefdoms didn't have the choice to disobey. They were subjects of the crown, unlike Rohan who were allies and a sovereign nation.

[{IRS}Athos]

I just hate that the KoDA are limited. In the books, they were only slightly more powerful than the Gondorian cavalry arm, and there were certainly a lot more of them. I think that we should keep at least one ranger to back up Faramir. Preferably Madril, as Hasfusel said.

[Berethin]

All right, I know I’m new here, but I did have a few thoughts that might be somewhat useful. Of course, I can’t help in any way, shape, or form with bringing my thoughts to actuality, so feel free to completely disregard whatever may not be of any use to you. (Likely that will be everything, but you never know! )

Anyway, concerning Gondor’s heroes, I’d actually like to see them stay with the set they have, including the dropping of Damrod. I did wonder, though, if maybe a few of them could get a little pickup. I myself don't see why they shouldn't just as strong as the dwarf heroes, but that's beside the point.

Now, granted, Aragorn and Gandalf are good the way they are. And Pippin… well, he speaks for himself. I thought maybe Faramir could have a little more of something with his sword, though, simply to make it a viable choice. (As matters stand, I don’t really see any use in him using it.) Boromir, I thought, could be more resistant to knock back himself, and, whether or not he keeps his own knockback, should at least do splash damage. And perhaps have his horn give an additional boost to nearby allies. Imrahil is very useful, but seems to die awfully quickly. Maybe give him more health or armor.

Also, not to sound opinionated, but since KoDA were brought up I thought I may as well say this. I wondered; considering that the Fountain Guard was such an elite, small unit, that maybe they should be the mini-hero battalions for Gondor, and the KoDA could be something like a Citadle Guard equivalent cavalry unit. (I don’t mean toggle weapons, though.)

On another, perhaps more acceptable note, instead make the Fountain Guard more like the Citadel Guard: more expensive, no armor upgrade, and perhaps better stats. I just have always have found it odd, from BFME1 on, that the Fountain Guards are used in such quantity for Gondor, when they were so few in number in actuality.

I don’t know if any of this will be helpful, but I hope at least something in it may be of some good. You guys are the masters; I am but a player with too many ideas.

EDIT: Hmm... it seems as if my first idea for the KoDA seems to run in the same thoughtline as Ithilienranger!

Edited by Berethin, 19 January 2009 - 10:18 PM.