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[robnkarla]

For the defenses, they are there. For some reason on higher level detail they are hiding.....

[lotrfan]

Hi

I had made a list of a couple of problems that i found with the Dwarven faction while playing carn andros. It was a FFA. The other 2 armies were both goblins. I lost the list but i will try to remember the rest from memory.

1. There is a typo in Thorin's ability. It says "Thorin gains a permanent increase to their hitpoints.
2. The ai seems to be messed up. They built heroes LATE game. After an hour or so. They never got unts from higher level structures (such as spider riders and mountain giants).
3. One of the neutral decoration buildings (in this map and in the 4 player map u have, such as the tents in ur 4 player map) are at half health and burning.

This is all that i remember for now. If i will probably add more problems i found.

[Dalf32]

iv never had a problem with ai's not bilding high-level units. wat lvl was the ai? if its hard or brutal it will get high level units quickly. (as well as expensive heros)

[Distant]

Ah ha! I figured it out. I can now consistently recreate the bug where a lone man of dale flag carrier with no AI that the enemy doesn’t attack is created. Turns out is has nothing to do with fighting. Here’s the step by step.

Step 1: Create a unit of men of dale. I’ve been doing this with archers but I expect to discover it works with the soldiers to.

Step 2: Upgrade the unit with a banner carrier.

Step 3: Create a unit of dwarves that is capable of merging with the unit of men of dale. In the case of archers, this can be axe throwers or phalanx.

Step 4: Merge the units.

What you will see happen is that the dwarves automatically spawn the dwarven banner carrier to lead the merged unit and the men of dale banner carrier detaches himself but remains in play with the odd behaviors I mentioned earlier. I’ll put an edit to this post or another post after I’ve played a bit with the swordsmen to see if they react the same way as the archers.

[Spointz2020]

Ah ha! I figured it out. I can now consistently recreate the bug where a lone man of dale flag carrier with no AI that the enemy doesn’t attack is created. Turns out is has nothing to do with fighting. Here’s the step by step.

Step 1: Create a unit of men of dale. I’ve been doing this with archers but I expect to discover it works with the soldiers to.

Step 2: Upgrade the unit with a banner carrier.

Step 3: Create a unit of dwarves that is capable of merging with the unit of men of dale. In the case of archers, this can be axe throwers or phalanx.

Step 4: Merge the units.

What you will see happen is that the dwarves automatically spawn the dwarven banner carrier to lead the merged unit and the men of dale banner carrier detaches himself but remains in play with the odd behaviors I mentioned earlier. I’ll put an edit to this post or another post after I’ve played a bit with the swordsmen to see if they react the same way as the archers.

haha those exploitable bugs can be so fun and entertaining, and overpowering gj finding the bugg/glitch!
I found a similar one pertaining to the noldor warriros whenever they lose a memeber and regenerate though

[Distant]

Some more details about the lone banner carrier bug:

It can work for a dwarven banner carrier just as well as a men of dale one. When merging men of dale and dwarven groups, whichever group is in the back will have it’s existing banner carrier detached into a lone banner carrier glitched unit. So dwarven axe throwers, merged with men of dale soldiers, can produce a dwarven lone banner carrier.

The bug does not work if both units in the merge have their banner carriers out already. The bug will only occur if the unit that will be in the back row has its banner carrier out, and the unit to be in the front row does not.

On an unrelated note, I also noticed two bugs with dwarven siege hammer guardians.

1: The mouse-over text does not display their level.
2: They don’t have a ground highlight around them when selected, even when in a mixed group with axe guardians.

[Distant]

I should never be confused with an artist, however as a big fan of the dwarves I’ve become frustrated by the guardians having no iconic difference between the buttons to build the axe version or the hammer version. So I did this.



I supplemented my complete lack of artistic skill by using existing graphics for axe, hammer, and spear to create some clarity in which dwarf is which. I also have a .dds version of it, but I don’t completely understand how the .big files work so I’m hesitant to try anything with it.

I’d say “I hope it’s of use,” but really what I hope is that someone who knows what they are doing better than I has this covered already.

[Spointz2020]

well actually i think u did great job with both the regular Guardian icon, and the Siege Hammer version of teh Guardian.... just the typical spear for the Phalanx batt. seems out of place - especially cuz they usually carry unique type looking spears or well - "phalanxes"

[Devon]

yeah, they have that trident type spear i think. nice work on the guardians tho

[dojob]

Move Gloin's slam power to level 3 It can kill a lot of uruks if they're close enough and if Arveleg's and Elrohir's Sword Blasts (which do the same thing) are around level 3, then why shouldn't Gloin's?

And move his "insta-destroy-building" power to level 6.

[Devon]

because elrohir and arveleg's powers are clones of wizard blast, which is more powerful. gloing usually only gets 3 units, u just happened to have that semi glitch where 20 units and standing in the same place, in which case any unit with splash damage would kill them all. his lvl4 power isnt instant destroy building only vs the weaker ones.

[Distant]

Thanks for the complements. I would have liked to do better with the spear, but I’m quite lost when it comes to creating original art. The only spear graphic I came across while rummaging through the .big files was the hero “spear throw” ability which is why it looks more like a Rohan spear. Because it is a Rohan spear. Manipulating transparency maps and resizing images I can handle. That whole drawing thing is still beyond me. I’m not above redoing it, however, if someone can feed me a passable dwarven pike graphic.

[dojob]

because elrohir and arveleg's powers are clones of wizard blast, which is more powerful. gloing usually only gets 3 units, u just happened to have that semi glitch where 20 units and standing in the same place, in which case any unit with splash damage would kill them all. his lvl4 power isnt instant destroy building only vs the weaker ones.

What semi-glitch? I thought they were just close. Either way, that did too much damage (killed like half my army) to be a level 1 power. And still, move the insta-normal building-killer power to level 5, 6, or 7.

[Spointz2020]

i want the dwarves to get a few more dwarven units

[Dalf32]

any ideas 4 those new units?

[Allathar]

Crossbowmen, Khazad Guard, Miners...

[dojob]

Maybe some Blue Mountains Dwarves, Beornings, Men from Esgaroth/Dorwinion...

[Gherrick]

Eagles, Dwarves of Iron Hills with pickaxes, Dwarven Scouts, Beornings!! (oy yes!!)

[Zyzzyva]

I don't think this has been said before. On the four player RJ map (i think its called anorien, anyways the one thats gondorian, not the rohan one) I played 3 unallied brutals (gondor, isen, dwarves) as gobos and when i finally defeated the dwarven citadel (man, can that thing go for a long time. I mean, full 1500 cp and all heroes plus balrog couldn't take it down in one pass .) the walls didn't die. It wasn't until I killed the resoure buildings around the outside that it finally disapeared.

[Devon]

hmmmm, anorien has a lot of bugs. did isen's ai even work? we'll check it out though.