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#181 shadowcreature

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 06:27 PM

They are even able to down a farm in a little bit of time, which is crazy considering all they do is bite. ;) If they do go to the beast pit, my guess would be so would Venom Sacs.

#182 Myrdin

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 06:36 PM

they are ment to be strong, coz they are low on health and archers rape them like crazy.

its just perfect harrasment unit, that suits the overall gob strategy.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 07:17 PM

they are ment to be strong, coz they are low on health and archers rape them like crazy.

its just perfect harrasment unit, that suits the overall gob strategy.


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Posted 01 July 2008 - 05:01 AM

I think they're a bit too strong...I usually don't use them to be nice in goblin games.

Although, I won't be so...erm...generous for the tournament, so either change them or live with the consequences :p

Spears and archers do own them though.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 06:23 AM

Agreed. Maybe it's so because they're kind of a monster unit maybe spear-wise? I also found them unsettling going from elite infantry to basic cavalry from BFME2 to ROTWK, but I guess it happened due to the addition of half-troll swordsmen.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 07:03 AM

DONT TOUCH THEM !, spiderlings are weak units, that are good only for harrasing. It worked fine all the time, no one complayined, and i dont see any reason to start complaining now. I think it shall remiain as it is.
Only things that goblin have is the tweaked weird " strenght " of harrasment. Its not like they can depend on the strong durbale units.
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"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
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"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

#187 Hexman

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 06:31 PM

I think that the factions goblins can have 2 new heroes

-Smaug (Book: The Hobbit)

-Bolg (Sun of Azog and leader of the goblins in the Battle of Five Armies)
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 09:53 PM

The goblin faction is set during the WOTR. Smaug is dead. Only Arnor and Angmar are in the past.

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 06:58 AM

and right now they have a lot of heroes, for a non hero based faction its more then enough ( though the two troll badasses should go to Angmar, at least that was the plan few months ago, but since the changes discussed in Angmar topic lately i kinda doubt it )
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"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
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"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

#190 Hexman

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 07:31 AM

Ok. I thought i can give some new heroes but i can´t :rolleyes: . Look one thing the heroes trolls of the goblins where they appear? Witch book
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 07:58 AM

They don't :rolleyes: They're made up..

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 10:20 PM

yoda soo whats up with them ? Angmar or Angmar not :p becouse there was huge discussion about new Angmar hero, but some time ago you or some of other tester said that at least one of these troll heroes s gonna end up with Angmar.

As said, right now i doubt it will happen since there was agreeded that it will be BN hero, propably some kind of what mike suggested, some ranged dude with leadership and arrow wolley/barrage ending power. And since this one would fill the hole of early, mid game hero i d have to bring the question up " Soo will one of the troll dudes end wit Angmar or not ? " Since Angmar aint hero based faction, putting one of them + the BN dude there would be owercrowding
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

#193 mike_

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:27 AM

I'm pretty some of EA's guys will be getting the boot if he's implemented.

And, to my knowledge, nothing's been decided as of yet 'bout those Trolls.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 07:52 AM

hmm the boot will most likely go to rogash, eh. I made there few mid late game heroes that could fill the role of 3000 powerfull AoE hero. And of course + the early g. hero you suggested, since hwaldar just ain enough ( single early game hero, and the powers arent that good, example - his leadership goes ONLY to rhudar barbarians, the other powers aint muchb either ), btw i think having the ranged hero of yours would be good, becouse if im counting then Angmar and Goblins are the only two factions that lack any ranged hero ( and gobos are pretty " pumped up " with speed, unlike the slowly advancing Angmar ).

I suggested three heroes as Rogash replacement, all made as " mid, late game heroes " (to fill the gap after Rogash - no matter how ugly and weird he was, he WAS strong hero with AoE, damn dangerous leap, and berserker like power - not mentioning the abylity to " snatch " a troll from the enemy or creep lairs ), Those were :
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Amathiel - powerfull sorcerer hero, weaker in direct combat (but beying ranged, throwing some green shining something)
Mordirith - though another wight hero, (of course with different model, like on that picture) mainly a light mellee, but main use as powrfull summoner, whos elite powers could bring some pretty tough guys to defend himself.
and lastly a hero inspired from ToG i made up
Gromachk - powerfull combat hero, with good support for units and strong pvp (hero vs hero abylitis), though his ulty was a bit overpowered - and that was the only problem of his - i would lover the dmg soo it does only 50% to enemy and to himself 70% ( still if used not correctly you could loose your hero this way, having great risk, thus good balancing )

edit : eventually as it was discussed, Gromachk would become inn hero for the Tribes of Gundabad Inn faction ( if implemented in the game ). Amathiel and Moridirth would be BOTH accesable for the player, BUT you would be limited to choose to play with only one of them ( lets say i would play against dojob for example, i would be Angmar. I could choose either Amathiel or Mordirith, but after i choose one of them, the other hero would be " locked " till the end of the game, thus having to decide if i want a summoner support, or ranged direct dmg spells. Of course in diferent game i could choose again for exampla this time Mordirith, and thus Amathiel would be locked away

Edited by Myrdin, 08 August 2008 - 07:56 AM.

"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 07:01 AM

Do goblins have their armor (like in the Mines of moria in FOTR movie) in 1.06 update?
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 01:27 PM

Yes.

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 06:19 PM

Good, because i saw some kinda naked goblins and they looked ridiculous
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 06:35 PM

Oh, I thought that's what you meant :) That's their light armor, their heavy armor is the ones some of the goblins in moria had.

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 07:07 PM

Light Armor...
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Heavy Armor...
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I love the shields by the way :)

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 07:10 PM

Thanks for the images :) and so do I :D

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