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#121 Spointz2020

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Posted 06 August 2007 - 08:46 AM

lol :p
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#122 fehik

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 06:31 PM

Change the music for Evil Men, because it uses the Gondor music, oh and i think you should make the music more diverse for all the factions, there are many themes in music.big, but very few of them is used ingame, and it becomes monotone after a time to hear the same music in WoTR or skirmish.
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#123 Lord_Denethor

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 12:50 AM

For the Blue Wizards i think you should ask Ithorien from Wars of the East mod. He made some sweet heroes for them. Each with awesome powers that fit them well.
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Posted 09 August 2007 - 10:33 AM

lmao the powers i suggested for evil men were absolute pwnage ! :p Tbh i must admit they were prolly impossible to make :xcahik_:
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#125 Allathar

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 01:04 PM

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Harad Fortress (full upgraded), Stables, Archery Range, Armory, Farm... Beautiful models! That would rock in RJ-RotWK! Really bad the mod is cancelled...
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Posted 14 August 2007 - 01:47 PM

they said theyre not releasing any of their stuff tho :(

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#127 Allathar

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 02:16 PM

I know :xcahik_: And I kinda understand why he doesn't want to... But it's such a shame if all the hard work and effort will be lost... ;)
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Posted 14 August 2007 - 02:25 PM

The fortress looks a bit too cheerful though.... bright reds and greens and royal purples just dont fit it. Still, with a recolouring..... oh well, Im sure RJ will come up with sometime just as good (no pressure RJ :xcahik_: )
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Posted 14 August 2007 - 03:54 PM

But then again, our fortress was designed for Harad only, and we wanted to portray Harad as more then just the evil-looking fellows from the movies.

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 04:18 PM

I like the idea of focusing on either Rhun or Harad rather than a generic Evil Men faction. Though Harad seemed t o be be a little more independent of Mordor than Rhun, I'd make the case for looking at a Rhun centered faction:

1. The army that marched against Dale and Erebor was mostly or entirely Easterling, and seems to be the only instance where Sauron's human allies were not auxiliaries of an Orc-based host.

2. Whether going by the books or the films, the Haradrim were a key part of Mordor's armies at Pelennor Fields...not so much with the Easterlings.

3. Mordor's Easterling pikemen can be compensated with spammable and more Mordor like Orc Pikemen. It's a stretch to invent Orc equivalents of the Harad units, though.

4. In contrast, its not good to stack Evil Men with elite Archers, light cavalry, and Mumakil when they already have good infantry, pikemen, heavy cavalry, and chariots.

5. If Rhun needs extra support units, they can get them from Khand (which is truer to the fiction).

Anyway, my two cents.
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Posted 14 August 2007 - 04:20 PM

That's why the faction will be split until you get the 'union' power...
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Posted 14 August 2007 - 05:42 PM

That's cool...though I still think removing Haradrim and Corsairs from Mordor means either weakening that faction or giving them clone units that aren't in line with the fiction (elite Orc archers, turning the beasts that pulled Grond into Mumak-like war beasts, etc.)

If Harad must be removed from Mordor, better to replace them with a small and expensive contingent of Black Numenorians than invent Orcs and Beasts that don't fit the fiction.
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Posted 15 August 2007 - 12:30 AM

mordor alredy lost all MotE-type units and they do fin. i dont think they need anythin.

but i wanna know mor about this union power...

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Posted 15 August 2007 - 12:57 AM

you would start off as say...harad or just evil men in general with just a few picks of general units, then u go to the fortress and buy the Union power which allows you to play as both factions and buy their units
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#135 Allathar

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Posted 15 August 2007 - 11:19 AM

No, you start off with a menu from which you can decide which faction to play with: Harad or Rhûn. After that you can only build units and buildings from that particular faction, until you buy the 'union' power from the spellbook.
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Posted 15 August 2007 - 12:28 PM

No, you start off with a menu from which you can decide which faction to play with: Harad or Rhûn. After that you can only build units and buildings from that particular faction, until you buy the 'union' power from the spellbook.


o whoa RJ will actually be implementing something liek dat!?!?! ;) that's sweeet... well i like the sound of it so i'd definitely be looking forward to it :)

And as for wat uve said Dhzon... i personally understand how u feel, but with the Evil Men factioanly independent on their own now, it only seems suitable to say.... incorporate them into mordor by spell book power or smth - not a solid component to the faction itself though.
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Posted 15 August 2007 - 01:15 PM

And that's also already implented... The inn-factions, remember? ;)
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Posted 15 August 2007 - 01:58 PM

No, you start off with a menu from which you can decide which faction to play with: Harad or Rhûn. After that you can only build units and buildings from that particular faction, until you buy the 'union' power from the spellbook.


hehe, also wrong ;) the factions' which you didnt choose will just be more expensive and have longer buildtimes, but you can play harad and rhun without getting the spell :)

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#139 Allathar

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Posted 15 August 2007 - 02:00 PM

;)

Wouldn't it be better to split them completely? That'd make it even more unique...
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Posted 15 August 2007 - 02:01 PM

yes but then to have a complete mid to late game youd be forced down one path of the spellbook, which rob doesnt want im pretty sure.

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