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#161 Captain of Arnor

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 04:23 AM

Ravnin, you and I seem to agree alot on quite a bit. XD I'm the guy who sits back and plays and says 'HOLY CRAP AWESOME JOB. I'D HELP IF I COULD!' But I mean it honestly, if it matters...XD

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 08:29 AM

We need a lot of people to just play the mod and give feedback.
When you say

I'D HELP IF I COULD!

you should realise you really are all helping by doing what you do.

If anyone wants the chance to become a full beta tester, who get to play versions before they are released to the public, Rob has made an application topic, in which you can show off work to do with the mod.

Head over to http://forums.revora...showtopic=59700 to find out more :D

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 12:00 PM

Agreed, I think he should be removed from the game completely or at least be remade.
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#164 Devon

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 12:51 PM

Huh? Who are you talking about? :D

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 01:26 PM

check below the line on shikari's post. its actually a little confusing, but he wants rogash removed. it wouldnt bother me if he was gone though.

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 01:28 PM

Same-here, although Rogash was one of the strongest heros in the game. Anyone got any ideas as to what we replace him with
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 02:13 PM

well he is strong, and removing will hurt Angmar a bit, isnt it enough to just fix his model or something ?

and if removed, there must be something equivalent to replace him
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#168 Devon

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 02:21 PM

The idea behind him is kinda stupid anyway :rolleyes: And leap is just...

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#169 Myrdin

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 05:41 PM

soo what, cant there be such ability, its not like its op or anything :rolleyes:

and i dont see a reason why there couldnt be a bit smarter wersion of troll - Olag hais were inteligent enough to wear armor, and use sword, axes and maces, with a bit skill.
soo why couldnt one of them learn to speak ( though not soo good as Rogash could, maybe some basic words like " me hungry, me wanna kill, me scared " or something like that )
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 08:17 PM

Rogash might need a replacement (?), but go ahead an axe him. I sure as hell wouldn't mind :rolleyes: .
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#171 Uruk King

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 08:27 PM

I'd suggest not to replace him, Mordor already has a moderately good Troll hero.

But what will fill the hole left from Rogash? A Dark Dunedan hero, or an orc cheiftain?
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 08:43 PM

Perhaps a chieftan of the Barrow-Down spirits...

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 10:29 PM

I rather like the idea of an INTELLIGENT troll who can fight "like a trained swordsman." I don't understand why the trolls in BFME are mostly grunting beasts, when, in The Hobbit, trolls are quite intelligent. If you can decide to make a pie out of "burahobbits," you can probably learn to swordfight.

As that may be, Rogash doesn't fit the game. Perhaps if he were more like a normal snow troll in appearance, and not the great hulking moron with sculeosis. If you're not going to redo him, then at least trash him.

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#174 Captain of Arnor

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 03:36 AM

I think the Leap ability is okay, except for the fact that the creature using the leap ability is a multi-ton, fully armored troll... It goes well with Gimli: Gimli is useful, but the Leap ability, to me, really puts him on par with the rest of the fellowship instead of the slow hobbit-guarder. I don't feel up to typing out long posts today. XD

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#175 Uruk King

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 06:00 AM

The could have ginven him something more true to his anatomy like a great swordplast, mabye rearmour him, make either like a Snow or Hill Troll. Or possibly a Mountain or Cave Troll, to back up his size.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 12:08 PM

ok i will say just this to it today
" breathe in "

soo if you wanna axe Rogash, you MUST replace him with hero that is of equival strenght ( which means he should get meta impact or AoE dmg type ), soo he can cover his place.
i dont mind if it ll be dark numenorean hero, with some huge sword, but he MUST be 100% covering Rogash ( for as much as he was dumb, and took xxxxx time to regenerate, he was still pretty strong on the batlefield, and his Leap did pretty high dmg too ).

if you make the other hero, soo that he fits in, i too wont mind taking out Rogash ( see ya dummy :rolleyes: )
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"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

#177 Devon

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:03 PM

Angmar already has 2 AoE heroes...which is more than most factions. Rohan and Gondor and Elves for example have none...I think either all heroes should have minor AoE or only trolls and mordor wk should.

And for leap I meant...he probaly ways two tons, but he jumps like 10 yards up and forward into the air with no difficulty at all :p

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#178 Uruk King

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:20 PM

I say enough, our search is over for behold: http://uk.games-work...-masterclass/1/

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 09:05 PM

So basically a reskinned and (ability-wise) revamped Rogash.
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Posted 22 April 2008 - 01:36 AM

i complety agree with a reskin.
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