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#61 adummy

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 07:48 PM

after looking at the manual, Huge Weaving (Elrond), Ian McKellen (Gandy), Christopher Lee (Saurman), John Rhys-Davies (Gimili (but these were most likely re-used from TTT and ROTK games)), Andy Serkis (Gollum) and the hobbits. so i was wrong about the hobbits (but i swear these were just taken from the movies, or ROTK game).

I would like to make one comment that Frodo, Aragorn, Sam, Arwen, and Grima are all "American tourists that somehow got lost in Middle-Earth."
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Posted 25 July 2007 - 08:21 PM

I surmise the choice of actors was influenced majorly by Newline's concern for the U.S. Box Offices' revenues. ;)

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 08:25 PM

eomer's voice is really bad....but voices, i'd say, are a low priority, compared to gameplay stuff.
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Posted 25 July 2007 - 09:47 PM

Yes, we can go without changing voices until everything else is done. It doenst effect gameplay at all.

Whats wrong with sounding American? Got something against the U.S.?

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 11:08 PM

Whats wrong with sounding American? Got something against the U.S.?


No, it just doesn't sound right when you compare it to all the other voices in the game. It's like if you had a cowboy movie that for some reason had an actor from Birmingham with the thickest Brummie accent playing a cowboy. It just doesn't feel right.

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 02:18 AM

Hey dudes! I just thought I'd suggest doing away with that stupid "Knife Fighter" power that Legolas has.
Why not make it so that he toggles between knifes and bow? Cause I sure as hell didn't see any red smoke around him when he used knifes in the movies...or him looking at his watch going "Oh, damn...my knife time is up..!"



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Posted 26 July 2007 - 02:32 AM

What can i say? I don't want to be rude, but ...

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I suppose this suggestion has not yet been mentioned in this (comparably new) 'elven' thread. But i am sure you'll find it among many other things in the above mentioned threads. I have heard this asked many times before. It still is interesting (like many other units should have toggles), but i advise you to check up on the other suggestions that were already done. Maybe you'll even find some more inspiration there. But compare those with the ToDo-List first, as it already contains a LOT of stuff. ;)

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 04:12 AM

One think that bothered me what EA did is how slow the attack of Haldir is, perhaps make him more of an advanced hero, and make his bow attack be faster. Cirdan would also be a nice addition to the Elves, though this has prolly been mentioned or thought about alot.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 08:46 AM

The Elves have quite enough heroes now ;).
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 08:49 PM

True... I think I have revised my though about heroes, and they should be limited to a resonable amount to avoid the game being based on heroes only.

The most important thing is that all major caracters from the movies are in SEE =)

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 02:12 AM

Maybe you should cut Galadrial...since she already has a ring hero clone. Plus....weird kung foo elf wearing a smock...just doesn't seem right to me. Strom Queen is awesome, tho.
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Posted 27 July 2007 - 02:39 PM

Ring heroes will go (for Good faction). No more Storm Queen...
Normal Galadriel will stay =p

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 01:18 PM

http://www.ansereg.c...r_factsheet.htm ---> never realised they played such a part in the WotR.

Be cewl if you stuck 2 of the Hobits on MotW

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 01:54 PM

Yeah, those are the two final heroes for eleves that I considered, but I'm not sure anymore. I don't want to overpower Elven faction since they have 3 strong archer heroes already... *still thinking*

Hobbits will (most likely) stay united since that keeps them stronger as a group, but I understand your thoughts, since they indeed was spearated in the movies pretty early. IF I would separate them, it would be that way ^ and place Merry & Pippin with MotW, and eventually even move Merry along with Rohan heroes to Golden Hall (if we can work out the bugs with different fortresses for one faction) and Pippin in the Gondor fortress. But that is for later in that case and I'll also have to skin Rohan and Gondor armor upgrades for them (which I will do regardless if they stay with Elves or not) =)

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 02:01 PM

Elladan and Elrohir? If you want to have them in without overpowering the Elves, why not give them to Elrond as a summon power? Though personally, I would prefer to see you reduce Arwen to a lesser role (perhaps an uncontrollable defender of a fortress, like Cirdan in TEA) and put the twins in as full heroes.

Another option would be to make Elladan and Elrohir into a single mini-hero-horde, like the Elvenstar Mod - but if you do that, please don't make them absolutely identical like they were in Elvenstar :lol: .

Just some suggestions ;) .
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Posted 29 July 2007 - 02:04 PM

If I would do them, I would defenitely like to use your skins for them :lol: I'm just not sure how to use them, but I like the summon idea... =)

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 02:08 PM

;)
On the subject of the twins, they would certainly give that feel of...i dunno unity :lol:

they're present on another mod I've downloaded but didn't turn out that good..
I see them as more melee foot or mounted, basically Glorfindel type but much weaker. You could play on their role and heritage, giving them less health than their Father, or have it so there health put together totals that of Elrond..which would be interesting....with maybe some skill like Blademaster in relation to their Orc hatenessnessness :lol:
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Posted 29 July 2007 - 02:13 PM

Yeah... the problem with many heroes is also the need for powers... One way to go abut this could be to limit hero powers, to say 2-3 per hero, instead of some that have 5-6, and instead distribute them amongst others. It's really hard to come up with and code nice powers that are just not copies of other powers...

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 02:17 PM

I've told you I've got some scripts lol... Lurtz, Gandalf, Faramir type unit and Isildur-----> who has a potential skill for these twins

I agree Arwen should have less of a role, shes pretty useless as it is, stick her on an eagle or as suggested above.

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 01:34 AM

elves need smaller battalions imo.
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