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#61 segwayrulz

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 09:00 PM

Faction Name: Segway Labs

Faction Location: Gamma Quadrant

Faction Technology Special: special ops infantry are equipped with Segway personal portal devices. other special is hyper sonic railgun tech.

Faction Technology: laser guided nuclear/radio active missiles, their ships are equipped with all new fold space drives, which just take less energy than other hyper drives but are slower. large battleships are equipped with Hyper sonic gattling railguns. Small ships are equipped with electro sappers which leech enemy power from their shields. they also have the Aperture Giga Portal device to travel other ships to its location near instantly.

Faction Style: Segway labs are lead by GLaDOS (Genetic Lifeform assisted Disk Operating System) which is a (subspace entity)

Other information: Segway Labs developed on planet Omochron eventually they bought the planet and employed all the greatest scientists to develop GLaDOS (Genetic Lifeform assisted Disk Operating System) to develop their latest invention the handheld portal device, then the world leaders decided that GLaDOS could be used as a ruling body. then GLaDOS began expeditions to other planets for colonizations.

after a while some colonies became isolated, and began rising up against the 'oppression' of GLaDOS.
but for now, a new threat is more dangerous...

PS: I thought if you wanted to register you made a topic like in all these other RP's
PPS: see I made it more better and sensible, am i accepted?

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 09:11 PM

Denied. Plain and simple: it's bland, not well thought out, and the technology would never work.

A ) Teleportation via portals for ships is a godmod. Pure and simple. I will not allow this. Use hyperspace, subspace, slipspace, warp drive, fusion drive, etc. Most of these use the same basic principals of science, using an alternate, smaller dimension to travel to points pre-specified by the drive science.

B ) You don't explain what the apertures do. Without that knowledge, I could never approve them.

C ) It's 'Laser' not lazer. Laser, or more precisely L.A.S.E.R. is an acronym, but more commonly accepted as laser or lasers in plural.
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D ) You need ships, pure and simply, and the technology to power them.

E ) GLaDOS would never work. It would take many years for a signal from GLaDOS to reach any of the outlying vessels, and many more years for the signals from those vessels to return to it. Unless this GLaDOS is a subspace entity, it's ruled out entirely.

F ) This is a High-RP, meaning that we expect more than those RPGs that are simply one paragraph or one liners. This means that you need to have your tech ready and waiting to be accepted into the RPG. And you need to be able to sustain enough activity to support the battles, which on this type of RPG can range over days. At that you need to be able to describe the movement of all of your ships that are in a battle, or those roaming elsewhere so that we have enough to work off of.

Fix the issues with your tech, and I'll happily accept you. Just remember that this is the 'serious' forum and not the spam forums.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 11:46 PM

The organization of Apertures and all it's weapons and GLaDOS is ripped straight from the game "Portal" so not approved on that regard either.

Guys, we know the games you play, we play them too. Stop trying to make armies ripped from these games in the hope they'll get past the radar and come up with original stuff.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 11:54 PM

see told you segway

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 12:02 AM

well I changed it,

is it ok now?

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 12:48 AM

. they also have the Aperture Giga Portal device to travel other ships to its location near instantly.


No. Period. No ifs ands or buts. I won't have portals (NOTE: Except the stargate, made by a race long past. NO ONE has that kind of tech level, because I would have not approved it. Stargates, Drones, all the stuff you see on stargate that is ancient technology is BANNED in this RPG) used in this RPG. They defy the laws of physics, and allow you to travel extremely quickly with not much power. I won't allow them period. Each ship must have its own FTL system.

their ships are equipped with all new fold space drives, which just take less energy than other hyper drives


Superluminols lol. I see you balanced it with the speed ratios, thanks for that.

Small ships are equipped with electro sappers which leech enemy power from their shields


Uh NO. I didn't allow some_wierdGuy to use this, it's an utter godmod, and if anyone decided to use it, you die, no questions asked as I cause an unstoppable reactor overload in your ship that you can't jetisson.

handheld portal device


Still haven't explained what those do.




Other than that, the history is fine, GLaDOS as a subspace entity would act as an immovable satellite in the subspace reality, but that's ok as it most likely won't be distrubed there. As for the faction name, please use something more...original. Segways are Earth Tech, I highly doubt an advanced civilization on some far away planet would use that name. Fix the above, and it should, NOTE: SHOULD, be approved.

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 12:51 AM

No GLaDOS or Aparture! :scars:

It's like me saying "I have a l33t swordsman called Cloud serving in the SOLDIER race"

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 12:54 AM

While I have not played this game, I tend to agree with Elerium, as he probably has. Fix this too.

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 06:12 PM

I'd just like to say, I'm not normally like this, but this whole Segway idea offends my sense of what is good and right in the universe.

While I am in favour of the numerous necessary fixes, I'm still struggling with several somewhat fundamental issues to be taken into consideration when building an army.

1) The top speed of a Segway is 12.5mph. This is somewhat slower than average human running pace. This would render them, in a battle situation, somewhat less than useless. In fact, I may go so far as to call them of a hindrance, and to say I would prefer to do without a Segway in a battle.

2) Segways require two hands to drive, or they just go round in circles. This is not conducive to a functioning army, as they can't shoot while not spinning, unlike the standard foot soldier, a notable weakness for the Segways, methinks. In fact, the only way you could shoot would be to have your gun mounted on the handlebars of the Segway while somehow piloting it one handed. And then, what happens if you need to get off? You'd have to leave your gun behind?!

3) There is at least one inherent weakness in the Segway. I call it 'stairs'.

3b) Also low walls and tripwires. Or some guy with his leg stuck out. You know, whatever works.

4) How embarrassed would the average trooper be, riding to war on a Segway? The Segway is, perhaps, the least intimidating means of transport in the history of sentient life in the universe. This includes both the yak and the moped. At least yaks have horns.

5) What would your heavy support be? Giant Segways? Segway tanks?

6) Speaking of which, the standard Segway can be seen to have to a distinct lack of boths arms and armour. Correct me if I'm wrong, but i see this a serious disadvantage in warfare, especially because you can't use your basic soldier's weaponry while in motion.

There are other points, but I'm afraid I don't have the time, what with my fast-paced Segway-free lifestyle.
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Posted 09 January 2008 - 09:40 PM

Agreed with Vortigen on all points given.

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 11:59 PM

The organization of Apertures and all it's weapons and GLaDOS is ripped straight from the game "Portal" so not approved on that regard either.

Guys, we know the games you play, we play them too. Stop trying to make armies ripped from these games in the hope they'll get past the radar and come up with original stuff.


Agreed. Plagarism = Bad. As in, looked down upon here at Revora.

That's not to say that you can't use bits and pieces of stuff from various sources... Hell, this whole "Galactic War" roleplay/sci fi idea has been used so much that it's practically impossible not to use something that's already been done elsewhere. Am I using pieces of religion from a videogame I've played? Yes. But I'm not making that my religion to the point where I say "I summ0nz bahamut and pwnz0rz j00r nubz wif 0v3rdriv3!!!!". Am I using particle beam cannons, whose idea I got from watching 3 episodes of Gundam a few years back? Yeah, but I don't call them GundamGuns connected to flying metal humanoid suits piloted by one person and then say "My faction is called Gundam!". And I'm also using advanced Artificial Intelligence, something that I've seen in scifi for years, but I've not gone and called the dman things Cortana or Guilty Spark or Pentient Tangent.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is that, personally, I'm fine with parts of your faction being borrowed from places where you've seen stuff before. But not taking an entire faction that someone else has already worked on.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 12:53 AM

Lol, infantry only if you want it. I won't allow starships to use that system Copaman.

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 01:21 AM

wow.. so much debate...


anyway:

(NOTE: Except the stargate, made by a race long past. NO ONE has that kind of tech level, because I would have not approved it. Stargates, Drones, all the stuff you see on stargate that is ancient technology is BANNED in this RPG)


lol

You do realize that Stargates are already in your RPG right?


Dr Pyth said that his faction(Osean Union) use 'stargate-like devices', but are also capable of of transporting big stuff too like ships, ect. which is even more unbalanced then a normal stargate, as normal stargates are small, his are big


so then why accept him but not segways?(besides all the other dumb stuff in it, and the Plagiarism, which could easily have been avoided by having the same stuff but with different names and saying it worked differently, etc.)

he has a fair trade off, with his hyper drive being slower then everyone else's, he would have to wait to get one of the ships there first, before it could open up a portal for others

so its not like he can just open up a portal from anywhere to anywhere else

it has to be a portal from one ship to another, that seems fair to me (and i would think his small ships cant open portals, only the big ones can)

They defy the laws of physics, and allow you to travel extremely quickly with not much power. I won't allow them period. Each ship must have its own FTL system.


He never said they wouldn't take up a lot of power, thats why im inclined to believe that only big ships can open portals, as little ships wouldn't be able to store enough energy

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1) The top speed of a Segway is 12.5mph. This is somewhat slower than average human running pace. This would render them, in a battle situation, somewhat less than useless. In fact, I may go so far as to call them of a hindrance, and to say I would prefer to do without a Segway in a battle......
....etc etc etc etc.



all of these are true, but segway never said that his troops rode segways, just that their name was segway labs, and secondly, as it isn't an earth segway, they might be just some alien device that looks like a segway, but doesn't have the flaws that our ones do

but i highly doubt that he had planned that all his troops ride segways (maybe just his guy Lenny, who he has in nearly all RPG's he's been in), well i would hope that he hadn't planned all his troops to do that...


No GLaDOS or Aparture! thumbsdownsmiley.gif


i told him to get rid of all the aparture, which he did, but maybe he missed one (oh yes, the giga portal still says aparture, im sure he will fix that -hint hint @ segway-

and i see that he changed GLados, but yeah, i think he should completely change it, he can keep an AI, but not called glados


Uh NO. I didn't allow some_wierdGuy to use this, it's an utter godmod, and if anyone decided to use it, you die, no questions asked as I cause an unstoppable reactor overload in your ship that you can't jetisson.


i think you misinterpret what he is saying

i wanted to shut down shields

he wants to have eletric sappers, that take energy from shields, to let him have a continuous fire (so he doesn't run out of power from zapping to much) so its a weapon that powers it self pretty much

am i right segway? or where you actually planning on having it shut down shields?


handheld portal device


Still haven't explained what those do.


im pretty sure they are from the same thing that he was plagiarizing before

i have played a version of it once

its like a little portal, you zap one and of the portals on position A, and the other on position B, then jump into A and you pop out of B

This wouldn't really be unbalanced either, as you would have to be in range to set a portal, its not like you could set a portal where your standing, and the other 1000 miles away

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ok, so i'll admit he needs to still change some things

but i don't think he needs to get rid of the ship portals
(maybe he should change them tho, so he has giga thrust hyper drive or something, and the fold space is what the portals are)

and change the name so it isn't segway labs

maybe call his people segwasians, or segwayan's, or something weird like that if he wants to keep a link to segways
but change the name of the AI, the name of the race



segway is a friend of mine(admittably sometimes a bit silly) but he has fixed his faction up a lot, i even advised him with some of it (like getting rid of all the 'apatureTM' stuff that he had all through it, and giving his faction space ships, as he had planned that they only had 2, lol.) so most of his things were screened through me,(ok, i couldn't get him to change some things, like their new name)

so i tried to get him to balance it out(balance portals with slower hyper drive for example)

ok, enough sticking up for my buddy's silly faction,

Segway... fix it up, get rid of glados, and the apature that you missed, and maybe either make your slower hyper drive slower again, or make it take the same amount of power, but still slower, change it so they aren't called segway labs(and call the portals fold space, not their normal hyper drive, it makes more sense that a portal is fold space, as it is bending space to make a tunnel that you pass through)


and then i think you should be ok(am i right nowe?)

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 01:30 AM

I made a mistake with Dr. Pyth. I informed him of it via PM, but shortly after he left, so his faction is dead, it never existed.

No portals, as I said, except for the stargates, which are planet based, large enough for a SMALL fighter. For those who don't know, google up the Puddle Jumper from Stargate Atlantis. That size, or the size of a Wraith Dart (same show), would be small enough to fit through the gate.

GLaDOS, and anything refering to a video game that hasn't been renamed won't be accepted. You can use the THEORIES from them, but not the names themselves.

As for the stardrives, apsolutely no portals. None. Your FTL Drives:

Warp (A technique similar to Fold-Space, though slower and consumes more power, for use on smaller ships. Based on a warp factor from 1 to 10)
Hyperdrive (Travels through Hyperspace, an alternate dimension that is smaller then ours, with correlating exit points)
Superluminol (Fold-Space Technique)
Slipspace (A highly unstable drive that works like Hyperspace, only transfering the user into SlipSpace, and the drive follows 'corridors' in the slipspace. It is not known why, but AI's cannot follow these corridors. There is a chemical unique to the human brain which [99.9%] most of the time will allow them to come out at the correct coordinates.)

Of course, you'd have to name it whatever you want to name it, but it would have to follow one of these techniques.

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 07:13 AM

well there you have it segway, i tryed


i guess you will have to think up new stuff for your guys



and also, from what youve been saying about the star gates it sounds like you have put them in this RPG

you havent right? its just me missinterperating?

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 12:55 PM

That would depend on your view. Stargates, otherwise refered to as Chappa'Ai (by such races as the Domain, the Goa'ul [which may or may not appear in this RPG], etc.)

The science behind them is perfectly logical. I don't see why they COULDN'T be in the RPG. Keeping in mind that most planets you'll find are still non-technological, but willing to trade with those who are. I suppose anyone who has the technology coud supply an iris (Like the trinium one used on Stargate SG-1) or a shield (Stargate Atlantis), close enough to the event horizon that would prevent matter from rematerializing on their side of the gate.

I suppose we could take a vote. Someone feel free to set up a vote topic for the stargate in the OOC forum.

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 05:48 PM

Lol, infantry only if you want it. I won't allow starships to use that system Copaman.


That was intended... last time I checked my ships weren't firing personell-sized rifles lol. Besides, since my faction specializes in ground warfare, it would make sense for my troops to have it. Gives me a bonus when I've gotta shoot from cover.

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What about factions of humanoids that are not necessarily human?

I suppose we could take a vote. Someone feel free to set up a vote topic for the stargate in the OOC forum.


Will do. Now. Like, just did it multitasking with tabs.

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 10:00 AM

Faction Name: Orocian

Faction Location: Gamma Quadrant

Faction Technology Special: hyper sonic railchaingun tech.

Faction Technology: laser guided nuclear/radio active missiles, their ships are equipped with all new fold space drives, which just take less energy than other hyper drives but are slower. large battleships are equipped with Hyper sonic rail-chainguns.
Infantry have special flying segway's with mounted hyper sonic railguns. Heavy support are tank type version of the segway centaur. here a pic of it but just imagine it bigger and having a sheild to protect it and a big hyper sonic railchingun on it.
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Other information: (Will Make more up later)

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 12:50 PM

Faction Technology Special: hyper sonic railgun tech.

Faction Technology: laser guided nuclear/radio active missiles, their ships are equipped with all new fold space drives, which just take less energy than other hyper drives but are slower. large battleships are equipped with Hyper sonic gattling railguns.


Doesn't everyone have railguns? I do, and I know the Caenophar have something very similar.

And aren't nuclear missiles something of a superweapon, given that they can wipe out entire civilisations through the radioactive fallout?

Advice part: make the 'Gatling' Rail Guns your faction tech special. Nobody else has them, it can be something unique to you. Also, historical note, Gatling guns are named after their inventor, Dr Richard Gatling. He was something of a... how shall I put this... human? He also died in 1903, a fair while before he could have developed an affiliation to Segways. So a) spell it right and b) call them something different, a Rail-Chain Gun or something.

More advice: flying Segways may overcome the super-high-tech barrier of stairs, but they don't affect the chances of a soldier being shot in the leg and thus falling off his Segway. This is now even more of a problem, seeing as they're flying, so will likely fall to their deaths. Never mind, eh?

One last thing: as I recall, Gandalf/Nowe said to change the name of your faction. Which you have done, but Segwayeian Kingdom? Come on, show some imagination, man! Just come up with a name that has nothing to do with Segways, and I'm sure Gandalf/Nowe will be much more appreciative of your people. It's the little things that do it.

Also, King Lenny of Segwayeia. He sounds so cool. :)

Edited by Vortigern, 12 January 2008 - 12:52 PM.

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 12:02 AM

there I changed it :dry:
AS FOR LENNY HE STAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by segwayrulz, 13 January 2008 - 12:03 AM.





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